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Goodbye Gmail

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Re: Goodbye Gmail

#61
I use Gmail via Fluid app on mac and it works great independently (doesn't slow down n stuff). But if I keep gmail open in chrome, it sucks up lot of memory over the time.

Re: Goodbye Gmail

#62
post #13

I made the same switch a couple years ago (GMail -> Fastmail) and have had the exact same (pleasant) experience. Fastmail is fast and has sane defaults, a powerful filtering system, and good spam detection. As a bonus, I don't have to worry about Google reading my email to show me relevant ads. I've gladly spent the money to have reliable, fast, standards-friendly email. The only thing they lack is two-step authentic…

According to the Fastmail webpage, they do support (optional) two-factor authentication: https://www.fastmail.fm/signup/personal.html

Thanks! I think it's new. That's the first I've seen regarding it.

Edit: come to find out, it's only supported on secondary logins, so the master account cannot have two-factor authentication.

Re: Goodbye Gmail

#63
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funnily the spam filter is what finally got me off Gmail. It developed a serious false positive problem with a couple of mailing lists I'm subscribed to - and yes the address was in my address book and all the other usual 'fixes'. I can handle false negatives occasionally, but false positives are much harder to spot. Fastmail's filter (SpamAssassin for the most part) is configurable in how aggressive it is.

You could have created a filter to avoid marking these mails as spam.

Only after you find out they were getting filtered, usually because someone calls you to say "WhyTF aren't you responding to my emails?"

Re: Goodbye Gmail

#64
I use Sparrow. I get the benefits of Gmail, without any of the problems you cite.

(N.B. You don't have to use Sparrow; pick any IMAP client you like.)

Re: Goodbye Gmail

#65
post #55
post #6

I have recently made the switch from Gmail to Fastmail as well, and I couldn't be happier. They don't have all the features (calendars are coming soon!), but they also don't have Google+. In my experience it's a lot faster, both web and IMAP are extremely fast. While the storage is smaller than Gmail I don't find this an issue. I haven't used the XMPP servers yet, but it seems to have the same features as non-hangout…

How are they with spam? I'd just run my own mail, but I can't beat Google's spam filtering. (They have millions of email accounts, real time, as a data source.)

Spotless. I've gotten maybe one false negative (i.e., the spam hit my inbox) and no false positives.

Re: Goodbye Gmail

#66
post #43

Using the "Why is X" Google autosuggest as proof is meaningless, no one searches for "why is gmail so great" and the same suggestions come up for all popular products and services.

"It seems kind of ironic that a company whose motto is “Don’t Be Evil” has a flagship product that believes virtually every demographic group should be murdered en masse. I don’t know if this is a weird quirk of the search algorithm or if pretty much everyone who makes should-statements on the Internet is recommending genocide." http://slatestarcodex.com/2013/04/04/lies-damned-lies-and-fa...

>or if pretty much everyone who makes should-statements on the Internet is recommending genocide

No, you are seeing a reflection of what other people are searching too. It's a mirror into peoples private naughty thoughts. Stuff they wouldn't say themselves, yet they search for to see if there are arguments supporting the thought.

Re: Goodbye Gmail

#67
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How are they with spam? I'd just run my own mail, but I can't beat Google's spam filtering. (They have millions of email accounts, real time, as a data source.)

Spotless. I've gotten maybe one false negative (i.e., the spam hit my inbox) and no false positives.

I have a very different experience. I've had my fastmail account for ~5 years and get 20 new pieces of spam in my inbox daily, while on my gmail account, that I've used for ~10 years, I only get 1 spam per month on average.

Fastmail's spam filtering is atrocious in my experience.

Re: Goodbye Gmail

#69
they are trying to make changes to improve. give them some chance to improve. They have moved all the downloading to server side & so downloading an attachment or running a video is much faster now on gmail as compared to earlier

Lets give them a chance to improve before we bid goodbye

Re: Goodbye Gmail

#70

Using the "Why is X" Google autosuggest as proof is meaningless, no one searches for "why is gmail so great" and the same suggestions come up for all popular products and services.

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