Spam filtering in Gmail is a killer feature, now as much as when it first appeared.
These rants always skip that detail, the primary reason I stick with gmail.
Goodbye Gmail
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#42Having made the switch to Fastmail a while ago, I agree with the comments - mostly. While Fastmail is fantastic, it lacks the implementation polish of Gmail. Two-factor authentication is there, but not via a popup like on gmail. You have to enter it in the web-form. This is a hassle, because I use LastPass and it's a bit fiddly. Further, under Fastmail you create new logins in addition to the master account password.…
Thanks for sharing - I'm only a few days in but have really enjoyed the snappiness and simplicity. I do wish it had better calendar support (for that I'm still on Google) and a bit more polish but so far I'm glad to pay for it. The spam point is interesting - I plan on using Fastmail for my important personal stuff and gmail with forwarding for everything else. Hopefully that will make for a good tradeoff.
I've actually found Fastmail is better at spam filtering. I had a problem with many false positives on Gmail, but Fastmail is doing alright.
You can configure the spam filter to be more aggressive as well.
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#43Using the "Why is X" Google autosuggest as proof is meaningless, no one searches for "why is gmail so great" and the same suggestions come up for all popular products and services.
"It seems kind of ironic that a company whose motto is “Don’t Be Evil” has a flagship product that believes virtually every demographic group should be murdered en masse. I don’t know if this is a weird quirk of the search algorithm or if pretty much everyone who makes should-statements on the Internet is recommending genocide."
http://slatestarcodex.com/2013/04/04/lies-damned-lies-and-fa...
Re: Goodbye Gmail
#44Spam filtering in Gmail is a killer feature, now as much as when it first appeared. These rants always skip that detail, the primary reason I stick with gmail.
Funnily the spam filter is what finally got me off Gmail. It developed a serious false positive problem with a couple of mailing lists I'm subscribed to - and yes the address was in my address book and all the other usual 'fixes'.
I can handle false negatives occasionally, but false positives are much harder to spot.
Fastmail's filter (SpamAssassin for the most part) is configurable in how aggressive it is.
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#45Spam filtering in Gmail is a killer feature, now as much as when it first appeared. These rants always skip that detail, the primary reason I stick with gmail.
I have used Fastmail for as long time (Yikes, at least 6 years at this point?), and have never had any issues with their spam filtering. For context I get about 800-1000 ham emails a day.
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#46Spam filtering in Gmail is a killer feature, now as much as when it first appeared. These rants always skip that detail, the primary reason I stick with gmail.
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#47I have recently made the switch from Gmail to Fastmail as well, and I couldn't be happier. They don't have all the features (calendars are coming soon!), but they also don't have Google+. In my experience it's a lot faster, both web and IMAP are extremely fast. While the storage is smaller than Gmail I don't find this an issue. I haven't used the XMPP servers yet, but it seems to have the same features as non-hangout…
Another vote here that Fastmail is fantastic.
I hope Google never buys them. The whole Opera period was scary, but they managed to stay independent.
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#48Funny, I switched from Fastmail to Gmail a couple years ago. I was used to having IMAP access from my time in college, so Fastmail made sense at the time, but I came to prefer having a uniform mail experience--wherever I was connecting from--via a robust web client.
Gmail's filtering, spam detection, and labeling features are much better and Gmail integrates well with my calendar and file storage workflows.
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#49Spam filtering in Gmail is a killer feature, now as much as when it first appeared. These rants always skip that detail, the primary reason I stick with gmail.
Funnily the spam filter is what finally got me off Gmail. It developed a serious false positive problem with a couple of mailing lists I'm subscribed to - and yes the address was in my address book and all the other usual 'fixes'. I can handle false negatives occasionally, but false positives are much harder to spot. Fastmail's filter (SpamAssassin for the most part) is configurable in how aggressive it is.
You could have created a filter to avoid marking these mails as spam.
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#50I have gmail open in a couple of tabs pretty much for weeks. Were I to actually close and reopen chrome, the vast bulk of the resources would be cached. This seems to be optimizing an artificial. Or maybe an irrelevant is a better word. It's like measuring Windows boot times -- as is so common with each iteration -- when recovery from sleep is far more relevant to most people now. Further, and this may sound overly c…
Not everyone leaves their browsers open when they're at the computer. I don't, and on a 100/100 connection, from click to inbox open it takes me almost 7 seconds. I tried it twice on all 3 of my gmail accounts with varying results, but none faster than 5.
Not everyone, but I would wager that most do: Many office desktops went from having an instance of Outlook.exe open 24 hours a day, to a couple of tabs in Chrome. Which is exactly why Google made it a rich, all-encompassing platform (calendars, contacts, instant messaging) -- it's a conversation dashboard that is intended to sit resident.
This whole discussion sounds like some sort of Fastmail astroturfing campaign. I mean when people complain about Google+ (which in gmail is wholly materialized as a +YourName up in the corner), it sounds like rote talking points.