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Introducing OneNote for Mac

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Re: Introducing OneNote for Mac

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Meh. Against my better judgment, I downloaded it and poked around. Predictably, it does not play well others. Most notable, there is no export functionality. There is a 'Share as PDF' which is (a) not the same, and (b) broken for me because 'my email program is not set up properly' which is false. Hard to trust. (Evernote has a fine export capability, fwiw). One Note will, however, appeal to people who prefer 'struct…

Tagging is simply not how OneNote does things. If you're looking for that, use something else. Where OneNote excels is in giving you a tool to organize and manage your structured content. Personally, I prefer that paradigm since it gives you so much more control as well as allows you (in my opinion) to organize your thoughts and ideas better.

Isn't folder structuring a subset of tagging? How can it 'give you so much more control'? Not saying that the extra freedom from tagging is only good, but it sure is more flexible than folders and tabs.

Re: Introducing OneNote for Mac

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I think these may just be the limitations of it being a 1.0 release. The Windows version has all of these features.

Agreed - However, I'm still weary of the internal OneNote Format - I haven't poked around, but last time I checked, it was a big binary undocumented blob basically - so the lack of a proper structured export is somewhat worrisome. The UI looks great though - if only office for mac proper could follow with the same quality, it would be great.

I'm actually working on an org-mode onenote sync tool right now and the files are stored in an xml format of some kind. With very little knowldge of the format I was easily able to parse out all todo lists from the blob (which is a zip file btw).

Re: Introducing OneNote for Mac

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Meh. Against my better judgment, I downloaded it and poked around. Predictably, it does not play well others. Most notable, there is no export functionality. There is a 'Share as PDF' which is (a) not the same, and (b) broken for me because 'my email program is not set up properly' which is false. Hard to trust. (Evernote has a fine export capability, fwiw). One Note will, however, appeal to people who prefer 'struct…

Tried it, and yeah, lack of export features is a deal breaker for me. I'm sticking with Org-mode. Well, I know this is a different animal, but then most I'd use something like this for structured outlines... (and I can export the contents to files that other people can use...)

Re: Introducing OneNote for Mac

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I really wish they included inking support on the iPad app. I loved OneNote on my Tablet PC I had five years ago, and I'd love to use it today, but I handwrite all my notes on my iPad.

Me too. I think there could be a sizable market for a tablet or app that does notetaking and handwriting really well. The iPad seems limited by its touchscreen tech/software, which seems to be optimized for fingers and not fine-tipped digital pens. Which app and pen do you use for handwriting notes on your iPad? I've tried a few but I haven't liked any of the input interfaces. Writing in a small area of the screen is…

uPad has been great for me for a couple of years worth of note taking.

I use the adonit Jot Pro stylus, retina ipad mini and the adonit Tote case to keep the pen with the tablet all the time. ( http://www.adonit.net/ )

Not too worried about the bit of extra bulk as I can now chuck it into my consulting bag without worrying about scratching it up.

The reason i like uPad is that it presents a large space on the screen for you to write into, and then takes what you put in there and places it on the page. It means you get all the benefits of writing 'big' with palm rejection on the non-writing areas, but then all your notes go where you want by placing where the text will appear on the page.

Re: Introducing OneNote for Mac

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It looks like Microsoft has added a Windows 8.1-style window snapping to the Windows 7 version of OneNote, which (in my opinion) is one of the best features of Windows 8: http://i.imgur.com/HhA2YaB.png (This may have existed for a while, but I just discovered it today.) I don't have my MacBook with me, is this included in the new OneNote for Mac? Is it even possible? I confess I'm not very familiar with OS X or its c…

Yea, I love this feature!

Re: Introducing OneNote for Mac

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FYI If you drag one or more e-mail message out of Outlook for Mac, it creates .eml files. These are just RFC2822 MIME source with a file extension—almost any mail client out there can read them. If you drag an entire folder out, it creates a .mbox file. This is also a standard that many mail clients can read/import (Mail.app included).

Huge thanks on that, ruff. This definitely thrills me :) Just wondering why the hell isn't this part of the export menu... great feature, undiscoverable as hell.

I was the PM who led Outlook for Mac 2011; so I know many, many of those tricks. We rebuilt the thing in Cocoa with an entirely new Exchange client codebase—it was a beast of a project done in a fairly short period of time.

For better or worse, there were a lot of edges we didn't get a chance to smooth out by the ship date though I believe we made reasonably solid trade-off calls based on the team and deadlines we had. Updating the Export feature was one of those trade-offs (it's just not a super frequent user activity); that part of Outlook leveraged code from the much-despised Microsoft Entourage. The app was far from as full-featured as some users wanted (especially Win Outlook switchers) BUT did make enough progress to avoid the backlash of other "rewrites" out there (e.g. Apple Final Cut Pro X).

Little insider history: we did a lot to try and make sure data didn't get locked-in... we really wanted a place where, even if your app crashed, you could always get the data out of the app. During development, we even had builds where the entire underlying database was exposed as XML docs (one per item in your db). We couldn't get the perf we wanted out of that system. We ended-up with Outlook 2011's database which still bites folks from time to time but has a lot more "recoverability" than previous products such as Entourage (where it users often cited being locked-out of their database).

Re: Introducing OneNote for Mac

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Its been a long time Microsoft has done something that makes me happy but this is one of those times. People in my office use OneNote a lot, I use Evernote but I have seen others use OneNote and it looks more powerful. That being said the current state of Office for Mac is horrible, my outlook and lync crash every time I plug in an external monitor, awake from sleep, and sometimes when I switch desktops. They also ha…

Outlook 2011 for the mac is the first true Outlook client for OSX. Previous we had MS Entourage which was a lot worse than the current Outlook client for Mac. I have high hopes for Office 2014, hopefully it will be better than the current product.

It's not compatible with older exchange servers though. If you're stuck with that at work you're forced into imap mode.
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