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Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?

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Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?

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Post by gpjt »

72deluxe wrote: post #70

"Snuck" is a strange American word, the same as "dove" instead of "dived", eg. "he dove into the pool" instead of "he dived into the pool". I would read "snuck" as "sneaked". Another weird word is "gotten". And another strange and irritating phrase that is sneaking its way into English over here is "for free", but "free" is not a price so instead of "buy 3 eggs for £2.00", you get weird phrases "sign up now and get t…

"gotten" definitely sounds odd to me (I'm from England) but it's worth noting that we do keep that form in "forgotten".

Presumably both were acceptable over here at some stage. "I see no reason why gunpowder and treason should ever be forgot."

Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?

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Post by pitt1980 »

Finding Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is a problem google could solve by crowdsourcing the search on the google doodle

They could use an algorithm to generate different satellite images through the possible search images as the google doodle, they could put a toggle button, 'anything look like a plane or wreckage here?' Yes/no. For every yes, show it to more people, see if they agree

I’m sure google has better algorithm experts to figure out what the best images to show are than I can figure out,

but google can find that plane

I've already submitted this to google via email at proposals@google.com as suggested on http://www.google.com/doodles/about

I suspect there are people on HN who are fewer degrees of seperation from who figures out the google doodle than I am though

If you happen to be one of those people, who might be able to send a personal email, or send a text, or make a phone call to someone who could advocate for that being the google doodle, I would appreciate that

needless to say, if google was able to help solve this mystery, I would imagine that would be pretty good publicity for the company

Thanks for your consideration

(sorry for the spam) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7414422

Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?

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Post by pktgen »

pitt1980 wrote: post #182

Finding Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is a problem google could solve by crowdsourcing the search on the google doodle They could use an algorithm to generate different satellite images through the possible search images as the google doodle, they could put a toggle button, 'anything look like a plane or wreckage here?' Yes/no. For every yes, show it to more people, see if they agree I’m sure google has better algorit…

Isn't Tomnod doing this already (although I don't think they've updated their images to the newest area)?

Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?

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Post by MrBuddyCasino »

pitt1980 wrote: post #182

Finding Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is a problem google could solve by crowdsourcing the search on the google doodle They could use an algorithm to generate different satellite images through the possible search images as the google doodle, they could put a toggle button, 'anything look like a plane or wreckage here?' Yes/no. For every yes, show it to more people, see if they agree I’m sure google has better algorit…

Interesting idea, but is there really up-to-date satellite imagery of the huge area to search for? I always thought sats can only make high-res pictures of narrow strips, which are then assembled by flying around the earth multiple times, which probably takes a few days/weeks. Anyone knows how this actually works?

Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?

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Post by sgt101 »

zmb_ wrote: post #122
Tyrannosaurs wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's an easier way of getting people. If you want 20 people taking an additional 200 people and an airliner with them seems overly complex compared to, say, hitting them on the back of the head as they're walking home and bundling them in a van.

How is it easier to go around hitting 20 people on the back the the head and then figuring out how to drive them to North Korea at the back of a van without being detected? If your goal is to get a large team of semiconductor engineers against their will, I can hardly think of a more efficient way than simply flying the plane they are on to your country.

How many would come to NK for $1m a year? If I were building a team of engineers in NK that's what I'd be offering rather than an incredibly risky and difficult manuver like this...

Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?

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Post by goatforce5 »

joshgel wrote: post #178
Implicated wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> something else that is notable is that you know several large world governments have continuous satellite tracking of this flight They do?

If they did, they would know where the plane is and wouldn't be spending the money on the search and rescue efforts.

(Not to join in on the conspiracy theories, but...)

If you were part of the plan to hide this plan, surely you'd go along with the ruse and send some search teams to go look at some empty water somewhere else.

I'd guess the crews on the ships and planes would have to do so many hours of training a year anyway, so them circling about for a while would probably count towards that.

Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?

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Post by joeguilmette »

leoc wrote: post #174
fafner wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be much much easier to get to any of the passengers while they were still on the ground. Hijacking the aircraft and stealthily landing it somewhere is such a complex plan that it's just too ridiculous.

Really? I don't see any sign yet that the flight 370 hijacking involved unusual danger, difficulty or expense for the culprits: so far, as best we can see, it looks like stealing candy from a baby. Obviously to get people off it alive you'd need manpower and infrastructure, but either a dusty old Soviet-era airbase in metaphorical or literal Kazakhstan, or a ship to pick people up after a ditching in calm water somew…

Twenty blatant murders in China might - MIGHT - make to the sidebar on HuffPo.

Hijacking an airliner has captivated the attention of the entire planet. If they wanted to get rid of these guys stealthily this is not the way.

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Post by rajbala »

lifeisstillgood wrote: post #77

I am not enthusiastic about jumping into speculation land, but I would be interested in knowing if the possibility of this being a accident followed by auto pilot is possible or totally disproven My default assumption was they took off, an accident occurred that damaged cockpit and forced a turnaround, the damage was so great that the crew were unable to survive and turned on autopilot to stop an immediate crash, whi…

There would have been calls/texts/tweets/facebook posts from the passengers if they were aware that something terrible was happening whether accidental or intentional.

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Post by davepage »

danford wrote: post #125
emeidi wrote: post #107

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So you say the pilot does not have switches in the cockpit to turn equipment on or off? They have to WALK through the whole plane to turn devices on or off?! Bollocks.

I don't think it's supposed to be easy to turn off the tracking mechanisms of planes.

Wishful thinking. Aircraft are designed to be operated by professional crews -- not ex-convicts on work release. So, there are accessible circuit breakers to turn various things off.

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Post by Tuna-Fish »

ry0ohki wrote: post #148
justincormack wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gold? needs to be something worth stealing a plane for.

The plane itself is worth about 6 tons of gold

Sold where and how?

2 tons of gold are something that a reasonable person can actually expect to be able to convert into money without undue risk to his person. A stolen airplane isn't.

People keep talking about how this needs so much sophistication that it's probably a state action.

All I can see is something that one person with good planning could have done. That is, the pilot or the co-pilot waits until the other guy visits bathroom, climbs high enough and disables pressurization to knock out/kill the passengers and the rest of the crew, then disable communications, turn off transponder, sneak out of controlled airspace behind another plane, land anywhere with an unused strip with a truck waiting, abscond with the cargo.

That requires sophistication and careful planning, but is not beyond the realm of the possible.

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