After all the revelations of the last few days, is there anything it may not have done?
Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?
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Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Sadly, I feel like whatever happened, the amount of sophistication involved increasingly points toward the involvement of one or more state actors. If that's the case, I'm starting to doubt that we'll ever find out what happened to this plane... Indeed. And not just the "what", but the "why" as well.
time to figure out who was on that flight, perhaps it was someone so important that taking a plane full of passengers was worth the cost.
A team of freescale chip engineers for one.
Also, the answer might well be "what" instead of who. Many people have pointed out that the cargo manifest hasn't been published, and that the airline declared 50 less seats as available for boarding than the plane had. This means it had several tons of cargo on board.
Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?
#83I am not enthusiastic about jumping into speculation land, but I would be interested in knowing if the possibility of this being a accident followed by auto pilot is possible or totally disproven My default assumption was they took off, an accident occurred that damaged cockpit and forced a turnaround, the damage was so great that the crew were unable to survive and turned on autopilot to stop an immediate crash, whi…
Apparently the door can be opened.
They enter a code and if the cockpit doesn't reject it within a certain time frame the door opens.
See Helios flight 522.
Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Sadly, I feel like whatever happened, the amount of sophistication involved increasingly points toward the involvement of one or more state actors. If that's the case, I'm starting to doubt that we'll ever find out what happened to this plane... Indeed. And not just the "what", but the "why" as well.
time to figure out who was on that flight, perhaps it was someone so important that taking a plane full of passengers was worth the cost.
I remember when the first passenger list came out, one was obscured (passenger 84). I thought it may have been because they were unable to contact the family before releasing the name.
Looking into it again, this page [0] seems to suggest it is a Uyghur name?
[0] http://therealsingapore.com/content/who-passenger-84-mh370-a...
Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?
#85This is almost exactly how a plot device in Neal Stephenson's REAMDE plays out. In almost exactly the same part of the world. Bizarre.
More likely like a modern William Gibson plot. Mystery and modern technology in the same place. Objects that do not want to be tracked. Definitively Gibson style.
Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?
#86There is a realistic possibility that those piloting the plane used this and/or other stealth techniques and landed intact. There are lots of groups around the world that would love to have a working $250M aircraft. Maybe there is a massive airplane chop shop that this went to, or someone wants to load it up with explosives and fly it to some country they disagree with. Unfortunately, whether it landed or not, the od…
I think it's highly unrealistic. The plan simply involves too many risks. First of all how could the potential hijackers know that the Malaysian military wasn't properly monitoring the radar? There would have been a huge risk of the Malaysian military discovering it and scrambling jets. The collision avoidance system only works when the transponder is enabled. So flying in the radar shadow of another aircraft would t…
...it's very unlikely that a bunch of amateurs could pull it off.
The pilot had decades of experience and a flight simulator in his home where he could practice such things. If he was involved, he probably could have pulled it off.
...how could the potential hijackers know that the Malaysian military wasn't properly monitoring the radar?...
We don't know what the contingency plan was, because fighters weren't dispatched. Maybe pulling off this plan was a million to one shot, and they just got lucky.
IMO, the only reason that one would try for stealth in this situation is if their intention was to land the plane somewhere. If their intention was to crash, they didn't need stealth or 7 hours of flying time. They could have pushed forward on the stick for a few seconds and dove the plane into the ocean.
Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
my guess is that if it was hijacked by terrorists, the act is yet to come. They are after the plane, not the people.
Anything is possible, but my guess is that if they were hijacked, they had a plan that went wrong. It's far more likely, and it's happened before: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_Airlines_Flight_961
Add to that list:
- A depressurization event, either as a result of an accident or a botched hijacking (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_Airways_Flight_522)
- Pilot suicide, with a somewhat unexpected signature (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EgyptAir_Flight_990)
Pretty much anything is possible, indeed. However, I'd recommend this post on airliners.net for a comprehensive sanity check: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/re...
Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Sadly, I feel like whatever happened, the amount of sophistication involved increasingly points toward the involvement of one or more state actors. If that's the case, I'm starting to doubt that we'll ever find out what happened to this plane... Indeed. And not just the "what", but the "why" as well.
It's only one vague point of interest among many, but there were twenty Freescale employees on board flight 370. http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/09/malaysia-airlines-...
I don't understand what the twenty Freescale employees have to do with anything and I keep seeing this fact mentioned in every discussion about MH370.
How could they be important/valuable/dangerous enough to justify the hijacking or destruction of a commercial airliner containing hundreds of passengers? That sounds completely insane to me.
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#89Just a quick question, but I'd have thought the number of airports where a plane the size of MH370 could land would be quite small.
Is it not possible to work out the number of airports within it's range, and examine those?
Re: Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?
#90There is a realistic possibility that those piloting the plane used this and/or other stealth techniques and landed intact. There are lots of groups around the world that would love to have a working $250M aircraft. Maybe there is a massive airplane chop shop that this went to, or someone wants to load it up with explosives and fly it to some country they disagree with. Unfortunately, whether it landed or not, the od…
Why would you need a 777 when you can probably pick up old Russian cargo planes much easier and for a fraction of the cost and without needing super skilled pilots?
Extreme long range? It was a 777-200ER (Enhanced Range) - that model holds records for distance flying: