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LSD, Reconsidered for Therapy

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Re: LSD, Reconsidered for Therapy

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Post by Karunamon »

shawnz wrote: post #124
Karunamon wrote: post #117

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It actually has the opposite effect for me.. Getting a little faded cranks up my usual ADD to the point where I can't do much of any productive work. The things I could do with better focus and less of a need to seek novelty....

> The things I could do with better focus and less of a need to seek novelty.... Isn't it a need to seek novelty that makes you want to do those things?

To a point, but if you've blazed once you're not experiencing much new each time you do it. (At least I don't :P)

My problem is that anything, no matter how cool, rapidly becomes boring and uninteresting to me. Whether that be a game or a programming language or a project. Probably the single greatest stumbling block to advancing my career, knowledge, and overall life.

Re: LSD, Reconsidered for Therapy

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Post by samstave »

benched wrote: post #159
samstave wrote: post #134

Unpopular opinion penguin: If you're in tech and have not done LSD; you should notbe in tech.

I wouldn't put it so absolutely, but I agree that the kind of people who manipulate some of the most complex systems ever devised by humankind, are the kind of people who would probably benefit greatly from a trip.

True, but then my statement wouldn't be meme-y enough :)

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Post by spinlock »

mycroft-holmes wrote: post #102
scott_karana wrote: post #65

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> Especially when you aren't using medical grade LSD but whatever you can buy from a stranger on SilkRoad/wherever Ironically, in the heyday of Silk Road, you likely were buying medical-grade LSD if you were careful. http://www.gwern.net/Silk%20Road#lsd-case-study http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/14/4828448/silk-road-lsd-ave...

spinlock is completely misinformed on this one. Like scott_karana said, the Silk Road was the place to get high quality drugs. If I'm not mistaken, many reputable sellers on the site had their products tested for purity.

The link scott_karana provided said that a group calling themselves the Avengers started rating the acid on SilkRoad because so much of it was not pure LSD.

Re: LSD, Reconsidered for Therapy

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Post by hnisnotreddit »

rachellaw wrote: post #136

If anyone is seriously considering taking LSD please check for drug/chemical interactions first Most drugs have zero effect if you have ptsd, clinical depression and schizoaffective or similar; LSD will probably make it worse and party drugs (amphetamines) won't work on you. Everyone else will get high, and you'll be bored and sober.

Hallucinogens have done wnders for my PTSD and depression issues. Please do not confuse them with Amphetamines or other non-hallucinogens.

That said, if you are on MAOI's or SSRI's, you would do well to end their use before attempting any hallucinogen stronger than cannabis.

Re: LSD, Reconsidered for Therapy

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Post by EC1 »

staticelf wrote: post #154
EC1 wrote: post #15

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Before entering the corporate work place I never touched anything. Once my one coworker started talking about it, the whole chain revealed itself, now it's super social to go smoke a joint with my bosses after work and have a beer, I love it. I wonder how much I'm actually destroying my health by smoking weed every day, drinking coffee, and having some alcohol at least in a minor capacity. I feel as if the emotional/…

I have experience from three different substances that I thought I'd share. The first other substance that I tried and did so several times was something called "Spice". It was legal in my country for the time being and you could order it online quite cheap actually. It is a substance created to be as similar as cannabis and to be legal. However a couple of years ago they banned it in my country. The experience of th…

Hey man thanks for sharing. The spice sounds terrible and I've heard nothing but horror stories. Sorry for your loss.

Re: LSD, Reconsidered for Therapy

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Post by WiseWeasel »

md224 wrote: post #80
sar9 wrote: post #34

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I wish more experienced DMT. It's like the ultimate Oculus Rift. The resolution, colors and sense of intelligence communicating with you is beyond anything any other psychedelic can produce. It is literally like opening a door to another dimension, one full of overwhelming love. Maybe it's just a biological trick but it is one of the most fascinating and unbelievable things in nature. Not everyone should try it but I…

I wonder if we'll ever reach a point where one could have a DMT experience in a comfortable and legal fashion. It would be nice if the laws allowed for licensed psychedelic exploration centers where one could be attended to by experienced trip sitters. (And yes, I know there are numerous Ayahuasca retreats available in South America.)

There are several Santo Daime churches operating legally in the US (as well as in the Netherlands and its native Brazil), whose service includes court-sanctioned ayahuasca ceremonies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santo_Daime#United_States

http://www.bialabate.net/texts/oregon-daime-case-documents

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Post by bennyg »

sizzle wrote: post #131
bennyg wrote: post #126

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Both molecules are very similar and have been theorized to act very similarly in the way they affect neurotransmitters. However, as anyone who has experienced both will tell you, they are quantifiably and qualitatively different.

thanks for the reply, you seem knowledgeable about chemicals. Thoughts on DMT and Mescaline?

Thanks, I only have slight reading knowledge of the subjects (mostly Wikipedia, then following the sources at the end of the page). I've never done DMT or Mescaline though they seem fairly similar in affect, but extremely different in intensity and duration. My days with psychedelics have been few and far between for a while, though I'm sure there are others on here who have experimented heavily with these. I recommend checking Reddit too for a more diverse intellectual, social, and experience set regarding these types of chemicals.

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Post by rachellaw »

hnisnotreddit wrote: post #165
rachellaw wrote: post #136

If anyone is seriously considering taking LSD please check for drug/chemical interactions first Most drugs have zero effect if you have ptsd, clinical depression and schizoaffective or similar; LSD will probably make it worse and party drugs (amphetamines) won't work on you. Everyone else will get high, and you'll be bored and sober.

Hallucinogens have done wnders for my PTSD and depression issues. Please do not confuse them with Amphetamines or other non-hallucinogens. That said, if you are on MAOI's or SSRI's, you would do well to end their use before attempting any hallucinogen stronger than cannabis.

yes that's my concern (drug interactions) I've seen curious users mix all kinds of things without checking first, and they've never had any experience in doing drugs (either legal or illegal) and end up worse off

In terms of reactions, I think it varies from person to person. Generally speaking though, hallucinogens aggravate existing psychotic disorders. If you suffer from PTSD/depression it's not a psychotic disorder (so it's relatively safe for you to take).

Curiously enough, a subset of patients suffering from ptsd/depression/anxiety don't experience the euphoria associated with amphetamines. I'm sorry if I didn't word myself clearly enough

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Post by Nursie »

epsylon wrote: post #56
Nursie wrote: post #24

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"LSD - My Problem Child" is also well worth a read IMHO. It's by Hoffman and it tells the story of its discovery, also giving a few of his thoughts on what happened afterwards. Personally I'm not a huge fan of the "wonder drug that will cure all ills and open your EYES man" theories that abound around psychedelics. They can certainly induce a sense of the profound but I'm not sure they actually produce profundity. Th…

They can certainly induce a sense of the profound but I'm not sure they actually produce profundity. What's the difference?

Actual profound thought (to me) would be a meaningful realisation about yourself or the universe around you. LSD can make you feel this moment of profound realisation about things which are absolute nonsense.

This cheese is my brother, we'd all be at peace if everyone wore purple, god is a piece of bread with butter on both sides. When on acid these sorts of things can feel (subjectively) like the most awesome discovery, like the opening up of a whole new world of knowledge. Examined objectively afterwards they don't make a lot of sense, but subjectively, at the time, they felt extremely important.

That's all I meant.

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