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Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker

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Re: Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker

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Post by nl »

cortesoft wrote: post #107
ssharp wrote: post #84

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I have a Breville machine that allows you to pour in a heap of coffee beans, and it grinds and automatically fills the filter with your desired strength based on how much water you put in the machine. I believe they also make one that has a water reservoir that you periodically fill and you can just dial in a cup amount and it does everything else for you. I've been pretty happy with it since I get fresh ground coffe…

60 seconds to clean isn't nothing. Changing the keurig pods takes less than 3 seconds. It might make me lazy, but every second I am not cleaning my coffee device I can be doing something else.

Automatic coffee machines exist and take no longer than pod machines to make the coffee or to clean up.

They do tend to be more expensive though.

Re: Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker

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Post by freerobby »

lisper wrote: post #111
cortesoft wrote: post #107

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60 seconds to clean isn't nothing. Changing the keurig pods takes less than 3 seconds. It might make me lazy, but every second I am not cleaning my coffee device I can be doing something else.

This. Plus I have yet to see any non-pod-style coffee machine that can competently make one cup at a time.

Which ones have you tried? Any Jura machine will do the job and produce better, fresher coffee than a pre-ground pod. The upfront cost is substantially more, however; they start at about $800.

Re: Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker

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Post by sk5t »

not-gro-tsen wrote: post #113
lisper wrote: post #111

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This. Plus I have yet to see any non-pod-style coffee machine that can competently make one cup at a time.

I have a manual grinder and an Aeropress. Making one cup at a time is easy, and the taste is superior to pod-style coffee in my opinion. The time I spend grinding the coffee is part of the enjoyment.

I just got an Aeropress and it's very nice--smoothest coffee I've ever tasted. Slightly more fiddly preparation compared to a pour-over or press, but worth the effort.

Re: Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker

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Post by angersock »

jccalhoun wrote: post #127
ignostic wrote: post #59

This case doesn't have anything to do with DRM as the title suggest. It's more clear in the article: "the java-bean equivalent of DRM". As far as I can tell it's actually just allegations of patent abuse and anti-competitive vertical integration. Keurig had a patent on the technology for both machine and pod. That patent expired in 2012, allowing third-party vendors to start making pods. Treehouse Foods argues (among…

It might end up just being a new shape but the CEO's wording implies that it will be closer to what is used in printer ink cartridges. Following the trail from the submitted article to the article it links to and to the article that one links to finally takes us to the transcript of the CEO's earnings call: http://seekingalpha.com/article/1853341-green-mountain-coffe... "While we're still not willing to discuss speci…

It's. A fucking. Coffeepot.

Re: Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker

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Post by M2Ys4U »

angersock wrote: post #144
jccalhoun wrote: post #127

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It might end up just being a new shape but the CEO's wording implies that it will be closer to what is used in printer ink cartridges. Following the trail from the submitted article to the article it links to and to the article that one links to finally takes us to the transcript of the CEO's earnings call: http://seekingalpha.com/article/1853341-green-mountain-coffe... "While we're still not willing to discuss speci…

It's. A fucking. Coffeepot.

I bet it doesn't even comply with RFC 2324 either.

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2324

Re: Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker

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Post by ghayes »

shasta wrote: post #140
wtallis wrote: post #124

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If the patent is expired, then reverse engineering had better not be necessary, or else the original patent was insufficiently detailed to be valid.

The patent was required to be sufficiently detailed to allow producing compatible cups? I don't think so.

Isn't that the point of a patent?

Re: Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker

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Post by angersock »

M2Ys4U wrote: post #145
angersock wrote: post #144

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It's. A fucking. Coffeepot.

I bet it doesn't even comply with RFC 2324 either. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2324

You know, if someone actually built one of those, I'd probably have to convince our CFO to buy it.

Re: Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker

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Post by lflux »

ahoy wrote: post #19
lutorm wrote: post #9

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I think Keurig coffee is terrible, so I've never seen one of the reusable pods. But what's the point, if you are going reusable isn't it just as easy to make a normal cup of coffee?

I've only seen 1 legitimate use for a Keurig machine. My company's office used to be on the 9th floor of a very old building (built in 1914). The plumbing is subpar and our office had no sink, despite being otherwise very nice. Having a regular coffee maker would mean cleaning it in the only restroom on our floor, which was a women's room. So we got a keurig.

Along the same lines, I've seen a lot of touring light & sound techs put a coffee pod machine in their tool roadcase, so they can have good coffee right by the stage / mix position.
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