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Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker

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Re: Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker

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I waste 7 pounds of petroleum driving to work, and .01 lbs from my morning k-cup. My time has value, and I am not going to waste it greenwashing.

Far better coffee with roughly equivalent hassles: http://www.sweetmarias.com/clevercoffeedripperpictorial.php

Thanks, that is a good suggestion. It takes 5 minutes instead of 15 seconds. I'll give that try using the Keurig machine for hot water. The Keurig coffee is definitely mediocre.

Re: Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I waste 7 pounds of petroleum driving to work, and .01 lbs from my morning k-cup. My time has value, and I am not going to waste it greenwashing.

Far better coffee with roughly equivalent hassles: http://www.sweetmarias.com/clevercoffeedripperpictorial.php

Definitely doesn't do away with waste, although compostable paper filters are better than plastic pods (unless the pods can be composted?)

Re: Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I waste 7 pounds of petroleum driving to work, and .01 lbs from my morning k-cup. My time has value, and I am not going to waste it greenwashing.

I guess value is relative. I prefer good coffee and preparing it is part of the experience. It's like writing this comment on HN, what value does it bring to you ?

I was referencing the "actively dissuade" part.

I don't mind if people adopt environmentalism as a religion where all trash is a sin, I just don't want to be a part of it. I want to think about environmental impact broadly and go after the high impact items. Talking about K-Cup trash is a distraction from what is important.

Re: Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker

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So what is an option for easily brewing a single cup of coffee without pods that will lock you into a specific machine? The things that I like about my Keurig are that you can get 4 to 6 cups before having to refill the water tank and that it’s easy to clean. While I don’t mind having to throw away a filter I would like to avoid having to refill a machine with water every time I want another cup of coffee.

Re: Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker

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I'm not sure why they would attempt this. If they think they're going to get DMCA protection out of it, Lexmark already lost a case that seems to be this exactly: Lexmark Int'l v. Static Control Components http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexmark_Int'l_v._Static_Control... All they can do is make it harder for competitors to make compatible cups, but that sounds like a fool's errand.

IANAL but the Lexmark case doesn't seem like it necessarily says the DMCA doesn't apply to physical products, just that it doesn't apply in the way that Lexmark implemented it. Also isn't part of the case still pending decision of the Supreme Court?

Re: Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker

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>third-party pod refills that often retail for 5-25% less than what Keurig charges

How expensive are these pods? I certainly understand going generic to save 25% but a K-cup machine strikes me as a premium product. Maybe I'm missing something, but I'd think the people willing/able to pay extra for a high end coffee maker wouldn't waste time experimenting with generics to save 5% (what, a couple cents a cup at most?).

Re: Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker

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post #46

So what is an option for easily brewing a single cup of coffee without pods that will lock you into a specific machine? The things that I like about my Keurig are that you can get 4 to 6 cups before having to refill the water tank and that it’s easy to clean. While I don’t mind having to throw away a filter I would like to avoid having to refill a machine with water every time I want another cup of coffee.

The current machines will continue to work, and have a large ecosystem of coffee pods available.

Re: Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker

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I actively try to dissuade people from buying Keurig machines, or any "coffee pod" machine and this is just another reason why. Aside from the fact that the coffee is watery, the pods just add such an unnecessary amount of garbage to something that doesn't need to generate any waste. I think the concept is cool but re-usable pods are the way to go. This is stupid of Keurig.

I waste 7 pounds of petroleum driving to work, and .01 lbs from my morning k-cup. My time has value, and I am not going to waste it greenwashing.

How is using a good old coffee maker with beans a waste of time? You're getting better coffee and you're only spending a minute on brewing.
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