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How to intentionally get denied entry into the United States?

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Re: How to intentionally get denied entry into the United States?

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Post by MichaelGG »

turar wrote: post #157
MichaelGG wrote: post #121

If she's coming over to live, then she should be denied entry anyways. Perhaps just stay straight-out "I'm moving here." Maybe throw in something about maybe getting a job "To have more money for our family." Neither of those are total lies, but any CBP agent that's not asleep should block entry. She might even just tell them the situation, ask to see a supervisor and go from there. They may be able to provide someth…

> When I said he didn't know when it was (I had a 3 hour layover), he said it didn't matter, he'd make sure. Why did (s)he do that? Did you miss your flight?

Every now and then, I get a CBP agent that is having a bad day. Most of the time they are professional, polite, and efficient enough. This guy went on about all sorts of things, including stating that attending a tradeshow required a work visa.

I didn't miss my flight because I had a long layover. He took my passport and sent me to secondary control. Upon admittance, one of the agents there rolled his eyes and speedily got me taken care of and on my way. He did succeed at wasting 40 minutes of my time though.

Re: How to intentionally get denied entry into the United States?

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Post by mrcasual »

fleitz wrote: post #137
disputin wrote: post #56

I am clearly not a lawyer: if you tell passport control that you lost your drugs on the plane, there will be no evidence to prosecute you, but they probably won't let you in. More seriously, just don't get on the plane, then after a period of time contact your family and tell them you got refused entry. Spend a day or two at the airport or a nearby hotel.

No no no, please do not mention anything about drugs, you will get a lifetime ban.

Yes, but that one sure way to get denied entry.

Under Sec. 212 (8 U.S.C.1182) you are ineligible to receive visas and ineligible to be admitted to the United States if you 'voluntarily admit to having committed a crime involving moral turpitude

Here's a recent story: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/White+Rock+woman+barred+fro...

Re: How to intentionally get denied entry into the United States?

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Post by rdl »

BlackDeath3 wrote: post #159
rdl wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually there are plenty of cases of honor killings even in the civilized world. Not necessarily in this case.

Do you mind providing me with some examples of civilized honor killings?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shafia_family_murders

Re: How to intentionally get denied entry into the United States?

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Post by [deleted] »

ef4 wrote: post #124

I know better than to try to give advice when I can't relate at all to her situation. But I would just like to take this opportunity to say "fuck you" to her relatives in the United States. Economic opportunity and personal liberty are a package deal, you want one without the other and you're playing with fire. You're guaranteed to lose, either quickly or slowly. Quickly if this young woman continues down the path sh…

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Re: How to intentionally get denied entry into the United States?

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Post by Nursie »

BlackDeath3 wrote: post #133
marquis wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

She's not chicken. Saying that is disrespectful to the culture she is coming from. She is trying to find the most diplomatic way to extricate herself from an arranged marriage without destroying her connections to her family.

>Saying that is disrespectful to the culture she is coming from. I'm getting the feeling that the culture she comes from is causing her to fear for her life because of disobedience . She may deserve respect herself, but her culture certainly doesn't.

Could not agree more. Cultural sensitivity is one thing, acceptance of this is different entirely.

Re: How to intentionally get denied entry into the United States?

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Post by einhverfr »

aestra wrote: post #98
einhverfr wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Question: Will Pakistan recognize the divorce as long as they were living in the US at the time? My bet would be on yes.

An Islamic marriage ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_in_Islam ) is between a man and the wali of a woman, who gives her to the husband to be his wife, NOT a contract between the two members of the marriage. A wali is a "guardian" of a women. (or really, owner) She needs consent from her wali. Pakistan can just say "did your wali sign off on this? Nope? Well that's not a valid divorce." There's no actual legal…

But Pakistan has a hybrid Islamic/British legal system. This becomes a conflict of laws question and I dont think you can simply ask "is it Islamic?"

Re: How to intentionally get denied entry into the United States?

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Post by Pitarou »

dTal wrote: post #140
rjzzleep wrote: post #134

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uh ok, i tell you what. i grew up in germany, i'm highly educated, i speak fluent german without accent(you know like most people that were born in the us, speak english without an accent). in fact i speak 4 languages fluent+ a little of a couple others. everyone that had to deal with me on a personal level tried to hire me at some point. when i came back from the states i met a buttload of people that were telling m…

In my experience, most people that were born in the U.S. speak English with an atrocious accent.

There is extensive academic research showing that people's perceptions of an accent stem entirely from their perceptions of the social group who use that accent.

Re: How to intentionally get denied entry into the United States?

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Post by Pitarou »

htns wrote: post #147

All her problems boil down to a lack of money. She should just take a student loan to become "financially independent". No idea if she has access to one though

No. It's not that simple.

Of course, money can solve a lot of problems, but if she openly defies and (in their eyes) dishonours her family, she can expect retaliation. And they will use the people she loves and cares about the most to get at her.

Re: How to intentionally get denied entry into the United States?

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Post by htns »

Pitarou wrote: post #168
htns wrote: post #147

All her problems boil down to a lack of money. She should just take a student loan to become "financially independent". No idea if she has access to one though

No. It's not that simple. Of course, money can solve a lot of problems, but if she openly defies and (in their eyes) dishonours her family, she can expect retaliation. And they will use the people she loves and cares about the most to get at her.

She is fully expecting to dishonor her family in the near future, just not before they have paid for her college.

Re: How to intentionally get denied entry into the United States?

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Post by [deleted] »

htns wrote: post #169
Pitarou wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. It's not that simple. Of course, money can solve a lot of problems, but if she openly defies and (in their eyes) dishonours her family, she can expect retaliation. And they will use the people she loves and cares about the most to get at her.

She is fully expecting to dishonor her family in the near future, just not before they have paid for her college.

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