Am lost. Where do I download it from? I do not see any link. Or is it an online based editor? Will it work on Windows?
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"If you do not want this information reported, disable this package from the Metrics section of the Settings view (cmd-,)."
Why should I have to opt out of metric gathering in a freaking text editor??
Because they made the program. So it's their decision.
If you want a program that turns this off by default, please feel free to create your own program with this feature disabled.
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Atom is not only not open source but ... Do you have a source for this? I'd be very disappointed to hear that if it were true. EDIT: It appears that this isn't true. From a GitHub employee in freenode/##atom: EvanDotPro: it will be open source, and other platforms, when it's out of beta jonrohan: where are you getting that information? chance: i work at github
> not only open source That means the opposite of what you thought it did :)
It was
> not only not
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#364From "The Zen of Programming": ------ Hearing a disturbance, the master programmer went into the novice's cubicle. "Curse these personal computers!" cried the novice in anger, "To make them do anything I must use three or even four editing programs. Sometimes I get so confused that I erase entire files. This is truly intolerable!" The master programmer stared at the novice. "And what would you do to remedy this state…
I think the first assertion is simply untrue, and without it the rest is nonsense. You don't need to learn how to use multiple editors to do anything.
I suppose there are some languages/environments that are somewhat tied to certain editors (java and eclipse, C# and visual studio, objective-C and xcode), but that's not what is proposed here. It's a general purpose programmer's editor that anyone can use for anything. Are you really upset that it's being written? Why do you think you'll have to learn it?
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#365Can it send email?
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Yeah, I understand what you're saying. It's just hard for me to justify (to myself) learning vim (or emacs, or vi, or whatever) when I can just load up Sublime Text and start working on something. Put another way: working with Sublime Text and Adobe Brackets is a good experience for me... There's nothing that screams out at me "Man, this sucks, I need to go learn vim."
Fair enough, can't blame you for that. If you ever start wanting to administer your own servers, being handy with vim is nice as you can quickly make changes on an ssh server.
Vim is hardly a requirement to manage a server, and the amount of changes required live on a server should be approaching zero - apps should never be written on the server and even config files etc should be handled by some form of config management - chef, puppet, debian config packages, etc
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#367> A hackable text editor for the 21st century I'll fix: A proprietary (unhackable) text editor that only runs on OS X. I imagine that web developers will drool over this.
Where are you getting this from? I can see all the source at https://github.com/atom . Every repo I checked has the MIT license.
From Tom Preston-Warner himself: http://discuss.atom.io/t/why-is-atom-closed-source/82/8
> Atom won't be closed source, but it won't be open source either. It will be somewhere inbetween, making it easy for us to charge for Atom while still making the source available under a restrictive license so you can see how everything works. We haven't finalized exactly how this will work yet. We will have full details ready for the official launch.
However one tries to soften that language, that translates to a proprietary license of any standard definition of "proprietary"[0]
[0] It actually sounds rather similar to the old proprietary license that Microsoft used to use (not sure if they still do anymore).
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Although, most of the Sublime core is in C/C++ as far as I know. And it's using native drawing, not webkit. Will be interesting to see how the performance compares.
sublime is using opengl to render every glype. Its speed will blow anything out of the water. Open 2MB text will be highlighted and colored in an instant. I wonder how could webkit achieve that.
My suspicion is sublime's speed has very little to do with its rendering method and a lot more to do with its I/O philosophy. Because, let's be honest, there is no way OpenGL can make loading a 50mb file into memory significantly faster than plain rendering.
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> and there's no compilation step or anything -- then it's almost a fundamental paradigm shift for what desktop software could be. > It already makes me dream of a word processor I could hack like that, or a music player. Just by opening up a text editor. It's an inspiring thought. Not to rain on your parade or anything, but you can already do this with Emacs, not to mention that Emacs is free, open source software.…
Atom is not only not open source but ... Do you have a source for this? I'd be very disappointed to hear that if it were true. EDIT: It appears that this isn't true. From a GitHub employee in freenode/##atom: EvanDotPro: it will be open source, and other platforms, when it's out of beta jonrohan: where are you getting that information? chance: i work at github
From Tom Preston-Warner: http://discuss.atom.io/t/why-is-atom-closed-source/82/8
> Atom won't be closed source, but it won't be open source either. It will be somewhere inbetween, making it easy for us to charge for Atom while still making the source available under a restrictive license so you can see how everything works. We haven't finalized exactly how this will work yet. We will have full details ready for the official launch.
Either jonrohan is misinformed, or he's using a rather tortured definition of "open source" - even the Open Source Initiative would disagree with that usage[0].
I must say, I'm a bit disappointed by the fact that Github doesn't seem to be on the same page internally about this; it's a rather important piece of information.
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It's built on node-webkit and chromium, which technically works on Windows, OSX and Linux. Do you seriously think they would make an OSX only editor when there's already so many that work on all platforms?
The download is only available for Mac today, but we are working on the Linux and Windows builds.
sources are released? i guess making own linux build would be faster :D