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Atom is not only not open source but ... Do you have a source for this? I'd be very disappointed to hear that if it were true. EDIT: It appears that this isn't true. From a GitHub employee in freenode/##atom: EvanDotPro: it will be open source, and other platforms, when it's out of beta jonrohan: where are you getting that information? chance: i work at github
> not only open source That means the opposite of what you thought it did :)
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#352As was speculated in the other thread the beta looks like it will be closed, there's a "request and invite" form on the page. Others noted that the source mentioned "free during beta", I certainly hope that's not the case and it's truly FOSS. Sublime Text development has slowed significantly recently and the community can't continue to drive it since it's closed. Funnily enough, Sublime Text was born out of Textmate…
If you want an open-source text editor based on Node.js, Light Table might interest you. (Light Table itself is written in ClojureScript, which is a bit idiosyncratic, but it's hardly worse than Elisp, and anyway you can write plugins in normal JavaScript.)
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And it reports data to Google... http://atom.io/packages/metrics
"If you do not want this information reported, disable this package from the Metrics section of the Settings view (cmd-,)."
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I mostly agree with that although I think it's also kind of irrelevant in a practical sense because many programmers already have to know javascript for their work so you get a lot more people who can contribute right away. Aside from that -- lisp or javascript as the extension language, I'd love to see a brand-new extensible editor like emacs just to have a shot at changing terminology and some of the APIs. Emacs te…
It's true that a lot of people work with Javascript, but honestly I wouldn't say that they can contribute to anything right away. A lot of these people don't know more than $('#element').hide(); In fact, I would wager that there are more potential contributors to Emacs than there are to Atom.
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Nope: "Atom is a desktop application based on web technologies." So it's using node.js internally, but it's not actually a webapp.
Brackets does the same, which is frustrating as platforms like FirefoxOS and ChromeOS emerge. It'd be nice to see the backend be a drop-in replaceable API so it works just as well hosted in a browser/on a Chromebook/in a NodeJS process.
That's only one piece of making an editor run in-browser and cross-browser of course, but it's an important piece.
Also -- there are actually a couple ChromeOS ports of Brackets out there already (such as Tailor - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tailor/mfakmoghean...), but I'm nto sure if any of them are being actively maintained.
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Emacs is GUI desktop software. Few people use it in a terminal. Also, people didn't born knowing Javascript. They learnt it. And one could argue that Lisp is just as easy to learn, if not easier.
I mostly agree with that although I think it's also kind of irrelevant in a practical sense because many programmers already have to know javascript for their work so you get a lot more people who can contribute right away. Aside from that -- lisp or javascript as the extension language, I'd love to see a brand-new extensible editor like emacs just to have a shot at changing terminology and some of the APIs. Emacs te…
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Obviously your life is more interesting than you think given that so many people eagerly want to track it.
Err, did you just agree with me? Lol. My premise is that my life isn't that interesting, and if Github wants to track how I use their product, then sure. Heck, if they send me a survey, and I can be bothered, I'd probably even fill it in with - this is how I use your editor, this is how you can improve it (in my opinion). If they can just collect that information for free, with no effort on my part, sure.
No? I don't see how what I said agrees with you in any way.
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I just don't understand why people downvote you. It's quite stupid to downvote someone who is merely pointing out facts. Google analytic is everywhere. If you don't want Github to track you, then don't use it. So if people fear Google, then should Github do the tracking on its own? Then all the sudden Github is not evil anymore. But look: github has your repository, your code. If you have a private repo, github still…
So it's either all or nothing? It's possible to concede some privacy in some aspects of work/life while trying to retain it in another. Even though you have a Github account doesn't mean that all your code is on Github. You might not have remotely close to all the work you do in an editor on Github, at least if you're the kind of person who's more comfortable in your favorite editor than in a word-processor. People h…
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You do know that v8 is generally much much much faster than cpython, don't you?
Although, most of the Sublime core is in C/C++ as far as I know. And it's using native drawing, not webkit. Will be interesting to see how the performance compares.
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#360I was all ready to be skeptical and everything... but this could actually be amazing. I currently use Chocolat for code editing, which is beautifully elegant and I love it, but there are 25 little tiny things that I really wish I could fix. I file issues, but the developers rightly have their own priorities. It's closed-source, but even if it were open source, I'm not about to learn how to use XCode and Objective C a…