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#322> A hackable text editor for the 21st century I'll fix: A proprietary (unhackable) text editor that only runs on OS X. I imagine that web developers will drool over this.
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It sounds like you can disable Metrics in the settings.
Some apps ask on install if you agree to share usage data. I can't say how Atom handles it, but it sounds like you're in unless you modify the config. BTW, I'm less concerned and more just surprised to see Google Analytics used like this. I guess it really is the blurring of the lines between desktop and browser-based apps. Maybe this GA usage is not unique, but it's new to me.
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> and there's no compilation step or anything -- then it's almost a fundamental paradigm shift for what desktop software could be. > It already makes me dream of a word processor I could hack like that, or a music player. Just by opening up a text editor. It's an inspiring thought. Not to rain on your parade or anything, but you can already do this with Emacs, not to mention that Emacs is free, open source software.…
Atom is not only not open source but ... Do you have a source for this? I'd be very disappointed to hear that if it were true. EDIT: It appears that this isn't true. From a GitHub employee in freenode/##atom: EvanDotPro: it will be open source, and other platforms, when it's out of beta jonrohan: where are you getting that information? chance: i work at github
That means the opposite of what you thought it did :)
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> and there's no compilation step or anything -- then it's almost a fundamental paradigm shift for what desktop software could be. > It already makes me dream of a word processor I could hack like that, or a music player. Just by opening up a text editor. It's an inspiring thought. Not to rain on your parade or anything, but you can already do this with Emacs, not to mention that Emacs is free, open source software.…
Oh what, it's not open source? The little interest I had in this just evaporated. I would definitely be interested in something like Emacs built on modern technologies, but Emacs is already there and quite good. I feel like something like this could be neat, just because far more people know HTML/JS than Elisp, but if it's not open source that kills my enthusiasm for the project.
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See, I never get the tinfoil hat crowd. Are any of us so self-important, that we think our usage stats for a text editor are some kind of top-secret data? I mean, come on - it's a text editor - I edit my scratchpad and my coding projects on it. If any of the stuff I had was that top-secret, I'd be doing it in a digital clean-room, with an airgap. And I'd actually have top-secret clearance. How many of us here actuall…
Some people with lives "not that interesting" don't want to give up their privacy. Some of us even understand that there is no such thing as "anonymous statistics". It's not about a big government spying conspiracy. It's about basic privacy and not giving out data about yourself that you don't want to give out. There are also enormous trust implications.
It's fine to say, oh but the privacy! But that in itself isn't an argument. It's just an appeal to emotion, with no facts.
What do you think will happen if Github has usage data on how you use their text editor?
Or what do you think will happen if Google knows what websites you search for?
These aren't rhetorical questions - I'm actually curious what scenarios people actually think will play out.
I find it unlikely that Google/Github would publicly publish that information on their websites. I also find it unlikely that an individual person would ever view your data.
What other scenarios do you believe will happen?
Now, if the government were involved, that's a completely different kettle of fish.
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See, I never get the tinfoil hat crowd. Are any of us so self-important, that we think our usage stats for a text editor are some kind of top-secret data? I mean, come on - it's a text editor - I edit my scratchpad and my coding projects on it. If any of the stuff I had was that top-secret, I'd be doing it in a digital clean-room, with an airgap. And I'd actually have top-secret clearance. How many of us here actuall…
Obviously your life is more interesting than you think given that so many people eagerly want to track it.
My premise is that my life isn't that interesting, and if Github wants to track how I use their product, then sure.
Heck, if they send me a survey, and I can be bothered, I'd probably even fill it in with - this is how I use your editor, this is how you can improve it (in my opinion).
If they can just collect that information for free, with no effort on my part, sure.