wow, there are 2,078 lines of (unminified) css styling this page. Nice page though. Can't wait to try out the editor.
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#192Newest text editor for the gui-text-editor of the month crowd? It's okay, VIM and Emacs will still be waiting for those that graduate.
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#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
IDEs, while they have fallen out of favor somewhat in the web development community, offer such a "holistic" development experience already - complete with deep integration into GitHub, in some instances.
I think you miss the point. Being modularised allows the basic user experience to be kept very simple. It does not need to grow into something like an IDE. Hell, according to Packages [0] even tools like find-and-replace have been modularised so I do not think it follows that Github would carelessly decide to create a big ball of mud! And additionally this tool has removed barriers that previously existed before. Sin…
> Since it was created by Github they will be able to expose APIs to create features which are currently not possible.
You're probably right, but even if this is not the case, they will at least hopefully have a better understanding of how to use the APIs well, given how often they work on and with their own APIs.
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#195I was all ready to be skeptical and everything... but this could actually be amazing. I currently use Chocolat for code editing, which is beautifully elegant and I love it, but there are 25 little tiny things that I really wish I could fix. I file issues, but the developers rightly have their own priorities. It's closed-source, but even if it were open source, I'm not about to learn how to use XCode and Objective C a…
> and there's no compilation step or anything -- then it's almost a fundamental paradigm shift for what desktop software could be. > It already makes me dream of a word processor I could hack like that, or a music player. Just by opening up a text editor. It's an inspiring thought. Not to rain on your parade or anything, but you can already do this with Emacs, not to mention that Emacs is free, open source software.…
Oh what, it's not open source? The little interest I had in this just evaporated. I would definitely be interested in something like Emacs built on modern technologies, but Emacs is already there and quite good. I feel like something like this could be neat, just because far more people know HTML/JS than Elisp, but if it's not open source that kills my enthusiasm for the project.
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#196There's real opportunity here for Github and I hope they take it. Why is the basic workflow of the modern-day programmer split over multiple tools and over multiple systems? Aspects of Github could be modularised and added to the editor while still keeping the underlying tool simple and this could change our user experience for the better. Imagine flipping through your pull requests in the text editor and then seeing…
Why is seeing your friends comments and code reviews in the text editor any better than seeing them in the browser? Are we becoming this lazy? or this busy?
i see people saying less context switches. but isn't this the exact opposite? it's way more context switches?
isn't this the same as having our mails popup up notifications every so often or your gmail aggregating twitter and Facebook, because people thought it would make them more productive
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, just normal developer monoculturalism. Same as showing only Mac screenshots that is common, or showing your website inside a Macbook, etc.
The most common cause of people showing websites inside a Macbook is that the graphic designer is using a Mac and Apple provides some pretty nice high resolution tiffs of all its products.
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#198Apparently this was almost 6 years in the making. https://twitter.com/defunkt/status/438791340222971904
I wonder how long Atom has been usable. Chris stopped updating his Emacs packages in 2012.[1][2]
[1] https://github.com/defunkt/coffee-mode/commits/master?page=7
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#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
> and there's no compilation step or anything -- then it's almost a fundamental paradigm shift for what desktop software could be. > It already makes me dream of a word processor I could hack like that, or a music player. Just by opening up a text editor. It's an inspiring thought. Not to rain on your parade or anything, but you can already do this with Emacs, not to mention that Emacs is free, open source software.…
True, but it's a question of accessibility. Far more people can program in JavaScript than Lisp, and far more people use GUI desktop software that follows traditional GUI user-interface paradigms, than do things inside their terminal. (Edit: or terminal-style buffers/frames.) So that's why my statement was limited to what " desktop software" could be. :) I mean, I use LibreOffice, which is FOSS, but I am never going…
so write ruby or python for vim then.
not saying vim doesn't have it shortcomings, but people always forget that a scripting language for random app xyz still means you have to learn it's grammar. just like people who use ruby motion have to painfully learn that in the end while it looks like ruby it's still cocoa.
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#200If you're looking for an invite, there are lots of people offering and requesting invites on IRC: