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Re: Atom

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Welp, makes that decision easy. Not making the most important tool in my toolbox one that I can't hack to my liking.

Agree. It's a tough decision for them -- I'm sure the "Hot New Text Editor" market has a decent chunk of money associated with it. But it's pretty hard to commit to a text editor that you can't open up and recompile. EDIT: Plus, if an editor is going to join the ranks of vim and emacs in history (something which neither Sublime nor TextMate are on track to do) it has to be open source. Anything else and it's just ano…

I agree on the open source nature. However if this editor treats github as a first class citizen (while being free/open) then it does have value to github. This is especially the case for new github features introduced in the future.

Re: Atom

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I've sworn by SublimeText until now. And Atom is getting released during a time when I'm increasingly learning to love console-only computing. I envision a day when I can travel the world with a cheap laptop/chromebook and do all my coding remotely via SSH.. and Vim is very much at the core of that dream. Now I just have to master it.

I've never though about that! But it sounds great! A question though... I don't know how much though you actually have put into this, but I'm curious. What do you consider a cheap computer? I do all my coding (though it mainly web, which arguably might need less resources than other languages) in a medium tier pc. It's a lenovo B590 with an i3, 8GB RAM. It's not exceedingly fast but with two windows of chrome, 20 tab…

> two windows of chrome, 20 tabs each, 5 or 6 instances of PHPStorm open

Jesus Christ, that sounds excessive.

Vim can be run well off of a $35 Raspberry Pie if that means anything to you. That machine has 512 MB of RAM. Basically every laptop will be able to handle it just fine.

Re: Atom

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EAGERLY awaiting that Windows build. And if I can't get a Windows build, I'm going to go out and buy a Macbook Pro just to use this IDE.

Why do you choose to use Windows today?

Cheaper hardware, Steam (and other games in general), testing on the platform used by a majority of our users, and more customization available than OS X, for starters.

Re: Atom

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No mention of supported platforms, but the documentation refers to keyboard shortcuts like "cmd-shift-P". This isn't Mac-only, is it?

I just got an email inviting me to download the beta. The only download link in there is a button labelled "Download For Mac".

Argh, I want an invite! =)

Any tricks for getting one?

Re: Atom

#235
I exclusively use Sublime Text editor for some time now. But this Atom editor by GitHub is very interesting. Will definantly try it.

Re: Atom

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Emacs is GUI desktop software. Few people use it in a terminal. Also, people didn't born knowing Javascript. They learnt it. And one could argue that Lisp is just as easy to learn, if not easier.

I mostly agree with that although I think it's also kind of irrelevant in a practical sense because many programmers already have to know javascript for their work so you get a lot more people who can contribute right away. Aside from that -- lisp or javascript as the extension language, I'd love to see a brand-new extensible editor like emacs just to have a shot at changing terminology and some of the APIs. Emacs te…

It's true that a lot of people work with Javascript, but honestly I wouldn't say that they can contribute to anything right away. A lot of these people don't know more than

  $('#element').hide();
In fact, I would wager that there are more potential contributors to Emacs than there are to Atom.

Re: Atom

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> and there's no compilation step or anything -- then it's almost a fundamental paradigm shift for what desktop software could be. > It already makes me dream of a word processor I could hack like that, or a music player. Just by opening up a text editor. It's an inspiring thought. Not to rain on your parade or anything, but you can already do this with Emacs, not to mention that Emacs is free, open source software.…

Oh what, it's not open source? The little interest I had in this just evaporated. I would definitely be interested in something like Emacs built on modern technologies, but Emacs is already there and quite good. I feel like something like this could be neat, just because far more people know HTML/JS than Elisp, but if it's not open source that kills my enthusiasm for the project.

check out lighttable [http://www.chris-granger.com/2014/01/07/light-table-is-open-...]

Re: Atom

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Bracket is built on top of Code Mirror. It never feels like a native editor. If Atom is using a Webkit renderer for core editor part, I'm not gonna switch from Sublime anytime soon

Light Table is build on Node-Webkit and it feels pretty good most of the time. (Opening folders is the only spot I've found where it's like, "Wait, something is a little off here.")

My experience with Light Table isn't that fortunate, even moving the cursor through some lines feels sluggish and not great.
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