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Re: My mom is dying, and my bank account is dry. I need help

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It's a fucking embarrassment that there isn't an obvious person to call for help here. I wish there was an organization that would help people navigate their healthcare. Like a medical concierge/social worker. Someone is an expert on The System and acts entirely on your behalf. The would oversee your entire healthcare. They book your appointments, remind you to go, handle most billing issues, make sure you're up to d…

There are - look for patient navigators.

Re: My mom is dying, and my bank account is dry. I need help

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Will it take every single voting age person in America having a first-hand experience like this to change health care? How can any sane person prefer this over the alternative offered by Developed countries?

Tell me how to vote for change, and I'll gladly do it. In addition to being terrible, the current system discourages entrepreneurship and effectively taxes small businesses.

> Tell me how to vote for change, and I'll gladly do it.

Turn off your TV, get off your couch and get outside and protest like any good citizen of a democracy is required to do.

Look what happens in France when the government tries to take away a single public holiday, or make changes to maternity leave.

What your government is currently offering for health care is completely and utterly unacceptable beyond belief. It's your job to make them change it.

Re: My mom is dying, and my bank account is dry. I need help

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You say "the alternative" as if every other country on Earth has one system, and the US has a second system, and that first system is what we should have. Whereas all those other countries have a bunch of different systems (compare Canada to the UK to France to Singapore). And each of those systems has real tradeoffs for real people. (To be clear: I'd be fine with many, even most, of those tradeoffs, but people who a…

You say "the alternative" as if every other country on Earth has one system, and the US has a second system, and that first system is what we should have. That's actually fairly accurate. We have a system with 15% of the population without any sort of insurance, whereas 'the other' system provides universal coverage. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_health_ins... The payment details may vary widely f…

The payment details may vary widely from country to country, but it's unconscionable that tens of millions of Americans are an accident or diagnosis away from permanent financial ruin.

I would bump that to "hundreds of millions". Even when you have insurance, most of it's garbage. Health insurance means you're probably OK, but not always.

The PPACA ("Obamacare") outlawed some of the worst garbage insurance plans (that almost qualify as scams) but that left people with no insurance, and the "market solution" isn't working at all.

Re: My mom is dying, and my bank account is dry. I need help

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Yes I hope there will be some discussion around this!

I would say naive folk fucked by the system. In Europe it is kind of similar, but not as bad. My relative has non-lethal cancer. It was diagnosed by private doctor and waiting list for operation is a few months. So he called ambulance and went to public hospital with 'unknown pain'. The very same doctor (who also work in public hospital) diagnosed cancer second time and bumbed him on top of the list, since it is an '…

There is a very big difference between non-lethal cancer and lethal cancer. "Treating" a late-stage cancer is an order of magnitude more expensive than treating a cancer that was diagnosed early.

Re: My mom is dying, and my bank account is dry. I need help

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It's a fucking embarrassment that there isn't an obvious person to call for help here. I wish there was an organization that would help people navigate their healthcare. Like a medical concierge/social worker. Someone is an expert on The System and acts entirely on your behalf. The would oversee your entire healthcare. They book your appointments, remind you to go, handle most billing issues, make sure you're up to d…

There are - look for patient navigators.

Like this? http://www.patientnavigator.com/get-help-now/

"Navigation Services – $125/hr" -- at that price it may as well not exist.

Re: My mom is dying, and my bank account is dry. I need help

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It's a fucking embarrassment that there isn't an obvious person to call for help here. I wish there was an organization that would help people navigate their healthcare. Like a medical concierge/social worker. Someone is an expert on The System and acts entirely on your behalf. The would oversee your entire healthcare. They book your appointments, remind you to go, handle most billing issues, make sure you're up to d…

I hear that YC accepts Non-profits now. ;)

Might work even better as a for-profit, I don't know, but yeah would make a great YC co.

Re: My mom is dying, and my bank account is dry. I need help

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It's a fucking embarrassment that there isn't an obvious person to call for help here. I wish there was an organization that would help people navigate their healthcare. Like a medical concierge/social worker. Someone is an expert on The System and acts entirely on your behalf. The would oversee your entire healthcare. They book your appointments, remind you to go, handle most billing issues, make sure you're up to d…

http://minnesotahelp.info/Public/default.aspx?se=healthcare

Re: My mom is dying, and my bank account is dry. I need help

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Will it take every single voting age person in America having a first-hand experience like this to change health care? How can any sane person prefer this over the alternative offered by Developed countries?

Main reason I never want to live in America is health care. Just knowing that no matter what I'll be admitted to the hospital and treated is something I never want to live without. *2nd reason would be gun violence.

Gun violence is not a good reason to avoid the US. It's actually very rare. If you don't get involved in the drug trade and are middle-class are higher, the odds are overwhelming that you'll probably never see a gun fired at a person.

Our healthcare system is terrifyingly bad, however. It's a damn good reason to avoid living here.

Re: My mom is dying, and my bank account is dry. I need help

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You say "the alternative" as if every other country on Earth has one system, and the US has a second system, and that first system is what we should have. Whereas all those other countries have a bunch of different systems (compare Canada to the UK to France to Singapore). And each of those systems has real tradeoffs for real people. (To be clear: I'd be fine with many, even most, of those tradeoffs, but people who a…

All developed countries (excluding the US) share similarities, that when painting with a broad brush, can be called the same. Namely: People pay taxes that pay for healthcare for every single citizen. No person is without care. (end of comparison). (You can tell people it's exactly the same as how they pay for Elementary and High School, how they pay for police and firemen, etc. etc.) EDIT: Implied in my broad statem…

It depends on the treatment. Not all systems offer full cancer treatment, which is really expensive. What the other systems do have is free basic care - you won't be bankrupted if you break your arm or need a gall bladder removed.

It's a myth that all healthcare needs are free everywhere. There's always some diseases that will fall through a net somewhere. This of course does not mean that the situation in the US is not abysmal, just that 'everywhere else has fully free medicine' is a myth.

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