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Nokia announces the X and X+, its first Android phones

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Re: Nokia announces the X and X+, its first Android phones

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I imagine this decision made through both Microsoft's and Nokia's legal departments, but I can't really stop wondering what the implications of Microsoft distributing GPLv2 (with implicit patent licenses) and Apache (with explicit ones) has on their patent extortion licensing business can be. This could end up being much larger than just a couple phones.

Nokia started this project before the ms deal was announced. That is my theory, they just kept going...

Re: Nokia announces the X and X+, its first Android phones

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Without Play Store and the ability to sideload Android apps (via .APK), you can expect a proliferation of pirated Android applications for the Nokia phones. Once again, Microsoft will enable the creation of a thriving anti-virus industry.

Coming soon: Windows Defender Mobile NAndroid Edition (Personal|Professional|Ultimate)

Re: Nokia announces the X and X+, its first Android phones

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Installing Google Play on this should be trivial anyway, what's the big deal? The problem is that it's another iphone lookalike. I WANT A DAMN KEYBOARD!

> Installing Google Play on this should be trivial anyway, what's the big deal?

How do you install Google Play on a non-google certified phone? e.g. CM? (honest question - iPhone user here planning to jump ship)

Re: Nokia announces the X and X+, its first Android phones

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Microsoft is a kernel contributor, and Android isn't really linux http://go.linuxfoundation.org/who-writes-linux-2012

Microsoft's contribution to the Linux kernel, is, AFAIK, limited to device drivers that make Linux run better under Hyper-V. So, they are not really improving Linux - they are using it as a bait for you to run your Linux workloads on your Windows servers, using Microsoft's virtualization technology.

Intel's contribution to the Linux kernel, is, AFAIK, limited to device drivers that make Linux run better with Intel hardware. So, they are not really improving Linux - they are using it as a bait for you to run your Linux workloads on your Intel servers, using Intel's hardware technology.

Qualcomm's contribution to the Linux kernel, is, AFAIK, limited to software that make Linux run better with Qualcomm SoC. So, they are not really improving Linux - they are using it as a bait for you to run your Linux workloads on your Qualcomm phones, using Qualcomm's hardware technology.

Re: Nokia announces the X and X+, its first Android phones

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Nobody I know uses Microsoft's lockin. Some prefer google's or apple's, but increasing numbers are trying to escape from being a data source for advertising and the NSA and ditching google, apple, and MS.

I agree that this is the next hurdle. To just from Microsoft's desktop embrace to Google's cloud embrace is to switch one master for another even though Google has shown itself to be an excellent open-source champion in terms of their Summer of Code effort and the amount of client (and server?) software they develop in the open. But lock-in is lock-in no matter how comfy the handcuffs.

To just _leap_ from

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Re: Nokia announces the X and X+, its first Android phones

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How will Microsoft not be able to develop Mobile Office for Android? By most reporting[1], the office team has already had versions of office for iOS (and presumably Android) ready for quite some time. Their lack of release has been an internal political battle at Microsoft based on whether to postpone them until after the equivalent office apps are ready for RT. This is one of the biggest examples of decision making…

Office has a huge amount of legacy. I get that porting it to iOS had to be done. Microsoft provides Office for the Mac desktop. But porting to Android is a whole other story. Porting it to Android validates Android as a platform like nothing else. It'd be equivalent to Oracle releasing their DB server for Linux way back in the day, it gave the platform instant enterprise-cred whereas before it really only had hacker-…

> But porting to Android is a whole other story. Porting it to Android validates Android as a platform like nothing else.

I feel like the hundreds of millions of devices that ship each quarter is enough of a validation. They're not waiting around saying "I wonder if this Android thing takes off".

Re: Nokia announces the X and X+, its first Android phones

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Microsoft is about to buy Nokia. No way they're going to continue development of an Android phone.

huh? they already own Nokia

No, they don't.

http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/14/the-nokia-microsoft-deal-is...

Re: Nokia announces the X and X+, its first Android phones

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post #87

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Microsoft's contribution to the Linux kernel, is, AFAIK, limited to device drivers that make Linux run better under Hyper-V. So, they are not really improving Linux - they are using it as a bait for you to run your Linux workloads on your Windows servers, using Microsoft's virtualization technology.

Intel's contribution to the Linux kernel, is, AFAIK, limited to device drivers that make Linux run better with Intel hardware. So, they are not really improving Linux - they are using it as a bait for you to run your Linux workloads on your Intel servers, using Intel's hardware technology. Qualcomm's contribution to the Linux kernel, is, AFAIK, limited to software that make Linux run better with Qualcomm SoC. So, the…

> Intel's contribution to the Linux kernel, is, AFAIK, limited to device drivers that make Linux run better with Intel hardware.

No, not really.

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