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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Touch#Target_market Mark Shuttleworth, the founder of the company behind the Linux distribution believes that Ubuntu for phones will first find a niche in countries where Ubuntu is well known Linux is barely well known to the general population. Let alone getting them to differentiate the Ubuntu brand. Ubuntu strives to be “the smartphone that’s also a full PC”.[26] Canonical repor…
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A lot of people would disagree that this is as bad as you paint it: "On August 14, with 8 days until the deadline, the campaign passed the $10 million milestone.[8] The campaign passed the record for the most funded crowdfunding campaign held previously by the Pebble smartwatch on August 15." "The campaign ended on August 21 with a final sum of $12,809,906, but was not able to meet its goal of $32 million to kickstar…
If you are trying to launch a new line of smartphones, I would say that is a pretty shit turnout. They're not trying to put out wristwatches . Unless they were half-assing it for Ubuntu Edge, or deliberately set themselves up for failure, then at the very least they have demonstrated themselves incapable of estimating demand and rallying required support. What have they done since then to correct these failings?
I don't see how this is a problem for their platform.
I don't know why you are so upset that you are demanding that they "correct these failings" - what do you have staked on this? Are you upset about a competitor to some other favored product?
is that going to be your an arm processor with baseband integrated? the cool thing, you now have your laptop with you on your phone, and it's not just an android, but something with a real package management system. see windows 8 convertibles... the not so cool thing, your laptop is now a nice backdoor where you have no idea whatever the hell it's doing.
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> Pundits tell me nobody wants that, see Windows PCs, tablets, phones are servers. Right? People don't want the same user interface for phones, tablets and PCs, but they are likely to want access to the same underlying services. Especially if that means you can share access to data between different form factors seamlessly, without going to the cloud. Write a document on keyboard, then take your phone off to proof-re…
Or just have a cloud-centric workflow and you have billions of devices around you that can quickly access any of your data :)
Makes me wonder if Canonical has the manpower to focus on 3 devices (desktop, tablet and phone).
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If you are trying to launch a new line of smartphones, I would say that is a pretty shit turnout. They're not trying to put out wristwatches . Unless they were half-assing it for Ubuntu Edge, or deliberately set themselves up for failure, then at the very least they have demonstrated themselves incapable of estimating demand and rallying required support. What have they done since then to correct these failings?
They said openly at the time that they wanted information on how many people wanted the very expensive enthusiast's phone. Putting money down on it would have been a risky bet considering how little we have seen of Ubuntu Phone. I don't see how this is a problem for their platform. I don't know why you are so upset that you are demanding that they "correct these failings" - what do you have staked on this? Are you up…
I am not demanding that they correct whatever is wrong with their organization and product that resulted in the failure of Ubuntu Edge, I am asking if they have corrected the problems that resulted in the failure of Ubuntu Edge (in other words, I am asking if there is a reason that I should reevaluate whether or not I believe they will fail. If they have not made changes after Ubuntu Edge, then I don't see any reason to think that they won't fail again.)
I guess you are saying that the Ubuntu Edge crowdfunding effort was not an earnest attempt to produce a phone but was rather a sort of survey meant to gauge interest and support. If that is the case, then I think the results of the survey are quite clear, and support my assessment of their chances.
The market for a "pure Linux phone" (that is, !Android) is only so big. In that limited size market, we will now further subdivide it between Ubuntu and Jolla. I wish the two groups would at least seize on the opportunity to collaborate where possible (such as Qt apps)
At least one of these platforms needs to become technically viable and then gain traction. I don't think that imposing a broken MeeGo process in such early days is going to help either platform, it could well kill both and then Linux-phone enthusiasts are left with nothing.
It's not a bad thing for "Linux phone" to get multiple chances rather than just one. If one doesn't turn out well, at least all our eggs were not in that one basket.
If we are lucky enough that multiple Linux phone vendors get traction, then it is feasible they could collaborate on interoperability.
If either ever achieves enough market share to make it a zero-sum game between them (traversing some pretty steep barriers to entry left by incumbents), that's a good problem to have and the competition can encourage development for a little while until the issue is settled one way or the other.
Sniping at products which haven't even had a chance yet certainly is not going to help.
Congratulations! I heard rumors about Meizu and I cannot think of a better manufacturer! Meizu has design, engineering, and branding. I wish Canonical well.