http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Touch#Target_market Mark Shuttleworth, the founder of the company behind the Linux distribution believes that Ubuntu for phones will first find a niche in countries where Ubuntu is well known Linux is barely well known to the general population. Let alone getting them to differentiate the Ubuntu brand. Ubuntu strives to be “the smartphone that’s also a full PC”.[26] Canonical repor…
Canonical announces first partners to ship Ubuntu phones around the globe
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Re: Canonical announces first partners to ship Ubuntu phones around the globe
#22http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Touch#Target_market Mark Shuttleworth, the founder of the company behind the Linux distribution believes that Ubuntu for phones will first find a niche in countries where Ubuntu is well known Linux is barely well known to the general population. Let alone getting them to differentiate the Ubuntu brand. Ubuntu strives to be “the smartphone that’s also a full PC”.[26] Canonical repor…
I put my money on Mozilla with Firefox OS.
Re: Canonical announces first partners to ship Ubuntu phones around the globe
#23http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Touch#Target_market Mark Shuttleworth, the founder of the company behind the Linux distribution believes that Ubuntu for phones will first find a niche in countries where Ubuntu is well known Linux is barely well known to the general population. Let alone getting them to differentiate the Ubuntu brand. Ubuntu strives to be “the smartphone that’s also a full PC”.[26] Canonical repor…
Canonical already failed to demonstrate that their community gives a damn with their failed crowdfunded flagship phone. I see absolutely nothing to indicate that the community which failed to be impressed with Ubuntu on the "Ubuntu Edge" will provide a solid niche market for it on other devices.
"On August 14, with 8 days until the deadline, the campaign passed the $10 million milestone.[8] The campaign passed the record for the most funded crowdfunding campaign held previously by the Pebble smartwatch on August 15."
"The campaign ended on August 21 with a final sum of $12,809,906, but was not able to meet its goal of $32 million to kickstart the project."
Re: Canonical announces first partners to ship Ubuntu phones around the globe
#24http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Touch#Target_market Mark Shuttleworth, the founder of the company behind the Linux distribution believes that Ubuntu for phones will first find a niche in countries where Ubuntu is well known Linux is barely well known to the general population. Let alone getting them to differentiate the Ubuntu brand. Ubuntu strives to be “the smartphone that’s also a full PC”.[26] Canonical repor…
> Another point is that Microsoft, with all its power, can barely break the iOS/Android dominance in mind share.
That's because Windows Phone doesn't bring anything new, while being as restrictive as iOS and lacking apps, plus in my opinion it's still very, very unpolished. I own a Nokia Lumia and I use it as a dumbphone, in addition to my main Nexus.
Mobile careers won't promote it because they've got nothing to gain for doing it, mobile phone makers won't build phones with it because mobile phone makers prefer stuff they can control, users don't want Windows Phone because it brings nothing new and developers don't want to target it because it has to wait in line after - the web, Android and iOS.
> Openness is rarely a worry for smartphone users and developers alike (only a minority of them care and the impact on revenue is probably irrelevant).
The success of Android proves otherwise. Android is right now number 1 in terms of market-share because it is open. Here are some facts:
(1) mobile careers promoted Android heavily because it is open , long before Android was polished or popular (2) mobile phone manufacturers chose Android, long before it was polished or popular, because it is open and so they could adopt it instead of implementing their own shitty iOS alternatives, (3) many Android users loved the ability to install on Android the kind of software that's normally banned on iOS and (4) at least one developer (me) prefers Android because it is open-source, because it allows app installs from third-party sources and because you have to be a dumb fuck to depend entirely on proprietary platforms and walled gardens.
HOWEVER, I do agree that a new OS cannot win on openness alone, because for better or worse, Android is fairly open (Amazon can testify ;-)) - maybe mobile careers could see a way out of Google Play's grip on Android, or maybe they could see it as a way to get out of Samsung's shadow, however a new OS does need more than this.
But I also think that Ubuntu brings something interesting to the table - I do want a full-fledged computer that I can carry in my pocket and that I can later connect to a full-sized keyboard and a big monitor and have a full fledged OS ready to use.
Re: Canonical announces first partners to ship Ubuntu phones around the globe
#25http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Touch#Target_market Mark Shuttleworth, the founder of the company behind the Linux distribution believes that Ubuntu for phones will first find a niche in countries where Ubuntu is well known Linux is barely well known to the general population. Let alone getting them to differentiate the Ubuntu brand. Ubuntu strives to be “the smartphone that’s also a full PC”.[26] Canonical repor…
> Linux is barely well known to the general population. Let alone getting them to differentiate the Ubuntu brand. I think that story changes somewhat on a country-by-country basis. India, for example, has a relatively high Ubuntu adoption rate. Of course, the numbers aren't huge anywhere, and I agree that relying on the Ubuntu brand name alone isn't going to move products. > Totally different environments that share…
If those phones have x86 processors, that is. Ubuntu phone supports ARM, but Steamboxes certainly won't.
Re: Canonical announces first partners to ship Ubuntu phones around the globe
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Canonical already failed to demonstrate that their community gives a damn with their failed crowdfunded flagship phone. I see absolutely nothing to indicate that the community which failed to be impressed with Ubuntu on the "Ubuntu Edge" will provide a solid niche market for it on other devices.
A lot of people would disagree that this is as bad as you paint it: "On August 14, with 8 days until the deadline, the campaign passed the $10 million milestone.[8] The campaign passed the record for the most funded crowdfunding campaign held previously by the Pebble smartwatch on August 15." "The campaign ended on August 21 with a final sum of $12,809,906, but was not able to meet its goal of $32 million to kickstar…
Unless they were half-assing it for Ubuntu Edge, or deliberately set themselves up for failure, then at the very least they have demonstrated themselves incapable of estimating demand and rallying required support. What have they done since then to correct these failings?
Re: Canonical announces first partners to ship Ubuntu phones around the globe
#27http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Touch#Target_market Mark Shuttleworth, the founder of the company behind the Linux distribution believes that Ubuntu for phones will first find a niche in countries where Ubuntu is well known Linux is barely well known to the general population. Let alone getting them to differentiate the Ubuntu brand. Ubuntu strives to be “the smartphone that’s also a full PC”.[26] Canonical repor…
I totally like the idea of in the future having just a phone,with standard docking stations when a keyboard, large monitor, bluray burners, whatever... are needed. Something like a Chromebook but even more portable.
Re: Canonical announces first partners to ship Ubuntu phones around the globe
#28http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Touch#Target_market Mark Shuttleworth, the founder of the company behind the Linux distribution believes that Ubuntu for phones will first find a niche in countries where Ubuntu is well known Linux is barely well known to the general population. Let alone getting them to differentiate the Ubuntu brand. Ubuntu strives to be “the smartphone that’s also a full PC”.[26] Canonical repor…
People don't want the same user interface for phones, tablets and PCs, but they are likely to want access to the same underlying services. Especially if that means you can share access to data between different form factors seamlessly, without going to the cloud. Write a document on keyboard, then take your phone off to proof-read it on the couch. Receive an email while you're away from home, start writing a response, when you get home finish it using a keyboard and full screen. Download a PDF on your desktop, and then a week later while you're on the bus, or at work, remember it, and be able to read it straightaway. All your documents, bookmarks, open tabs, music in one place. Only one location to back-up. And so on.
I think it'd be useful.
Re: Canonical announces first partners to ship Ubuntu phones around the globe
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Linux is barely well known to the general population. Let alone getting them to differentiate the Ubuntu brand. I think that story changes somewhat on a country-by-country basis. India, for example, has a relatively high Ubuntu adoption rate. Of course, the numbers aren't huge anywhere, and I agree that relying on the Ubuntu brand name alone isn't going to move products. > Totally different environments that share…
> As Steamboxes begin to roll out and the platform gains more developer support, owners of Ubuntu phones will find that the device they're already carrying around is also a microconsole. If those phones have x86 processors, that is. Ubuntu phone supports ARM, but Steamboxes certainly won't.
I mean, sure, the heavier lifting of the games probably couldn't dream of going arm. Not sure on many of what I would presume are emulated games, though.
Re: Canonical announces first partners to ship Ubuntu phones around the globe
#30http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Touch#Target_market Mark Shuttleworth, the founder of the company behind the Linux distribution believes that Ubuntu for phones will first find a niche in countries where Ubuntu is well known Linux is barely well known to the general population. Let alone getting them to differentiate the Ubuntu brand. Ubuntu strives to be “the smartphone that’s also a full PC”.[26] Canonical repor…
> Pundits tell me nobody wants that, see Windows PCs, tablets, phones are servers. Right? People don't want the same user interface for phones, tablets and PCs, but they are likely to want access to the same underlying services. Especially if that means you can share access to data between different form factors seamlessly, without going to the cloud. Write a document on keyboard, then take your phone off to proof-re…