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A bit more clarification. Miranda isn't ever required , however anything you say to them before having been read you rights cannot be used against you in court, nor can evidence acquired as a result of what you said (with exceptions for both cases).
A bit more clarification still: Anything you say to them while in custody cannot be used unless you have been Mirandized.
Back in November, I was arrested in Brooklyn for running a red light on my bike while on my way to work in Manhattan. Normally you're given a ticket and let go, but in this instance, the officers took issue with the fact that I was not carrying ID. Both officers told me that I "could be arrested for not having ID." For clarification, I asked if it was a city, state, or national law, and the officers adamantly maintai…
The whole idea that bicyclists somehow are above the law in terms of traffic signals needs to end. We need to start stopping at red lights and stop signs if we're ever to be taken seriously. Time and again I've had conversations with bicyclists friends of mine who are adamant about how helmets are as optional as obeying traffic signals; it's totally hypocritical and asinine. They knowingly break the laws then bitch a…
So, the "american way" you propose is to BEND OVER and take abuse and injustice from police officers?
You sure are pragmatic -- but I would hate to live in your world.
After reading the first paragraph I already knew where this was headed. White America welcome to black America. You'll be arrested for nothing at all. The first time it happens you'll be really upset and threaten to sue, and file a police report. And when you do there will be some sort of roadblock, they won't have the forms, the officer in question wasn't on shift that night, the detective is quite hostile to you, t…
I'm glad it wasn't just me who felt like that. I'm white, middle class, and grew up in Britain as a native. But as a member of multiple minority groups, I've seen hints of this world, and it is not pretty :( The worst part of all this? First thing I did was check the author's gender and skin colour. And then I read the article. I normally work hard to be free of the prejudice of this society we are forced to live in,…
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I'm glad it wasn't just me who felt like that. I'm white, middle class, and grew up in Britain as a native. But as a member of multiple minority groups, I've seen hints of this world, and it is not pretty :( The worst part of all this? First thing I did was check the author's gender and skin colour. And then I read the article. I normally work hard to be free of the prejudice of this society we are forced to live in,…
Interestingly, I assumed the author was female until well into the story. But speaking of privilege, I can't imagine even the most obnoxious cops treating middle-class white women that way.
Back in November, I was arrested in Brooklyn for running a red light on my bike while on my way to work in Manhattan. Normally you're given a ticket and let go, but in this instance, the officers took issue with the fact that I was not carrying ID. Both officers told me that I "could be arrested for not having ID." For clarification, I asked if it was a city, state, or national law, and the officers adamantly maintai…
There should be an app where anyone accused of a crime/citation by a cop, could open the app up and enter the citation and get info/advice. Initial app response is all automated. "Consult my Lawyer" it should be called... You could choose to pay a fee to push it to a live legal person and seek a lawyer. Record audio during the encounter and have it attach to the incident. Even video. And the entire thing should be pr…
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How is this in any way related to the parent comment? He did not contest the traffic offence at any point. He did contest the requirement to carry ID and was then punished for raising his rights.
My point is, why contest anything in that moment? You just broke the law and could've potentially caused serious bodily harm to someone. I feel like there's a small window an officer gives you to get out of the ticket. They walk up. They ask you what you did wrong. You tell them. Everyone moves on. Sometimes they write a ticket or a warning. Parent dude completely and intentionally overcomplicated the situation. Wast…
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In terms of practicality "shut up and don't ask questions" is certainly going to be minimum hassle. But when the police threatened additional punishments for not having his ID he was perfectly justified in questioning them on the legitimacy of that claim. Acting within your rights shouldn't be punished because it's inconvenient.
I agree, but like some other commenter said about hackers needing a reality check; only the most disconnected of people would attempt to "educate" a police officer about the law. Why would he do that? I'm not justifying the officer's reaction, but, really, what did he think was going to happen? Most officers probably just aren't in the mood to deal with your shit; I'm not saying that's a good thing I'm just saying it…
I feel very sorry for the OP. Unfortunately, this is what happens when you're not a customer of the organization that protects you. Police officers will not be paid less if they mistreat the people they're supposed to protect. To get them to justice, as was mentioned in another comment, would cost tons of money and time and there's no guarantee of any kind of result. They know it. The only places where police is actu…
Add to that:
- Socialist governments that redistribute wealth so there isn't as much of a socioeconomic class gap (specifically mentioned by the cops in this article as an explanation for their harassment)
- Racially and culturally homogenous (especially compared to USA)
I'm not saying these traits' effects are solely positive, or that those countries are inherently better for these reasons, or that these are directions the USA ought to go. I'm merely pointing out that it seems many of the US's problems are due to class/racial tensions that don't exist in other countries with different histories.
I know this is probably going to get buried, but I believe that this is part of a larger scam. I believe that the Police receive kick backs from the bail bonds men, in the form of institutional charitable contributions at the very least, if not outright cash kick backs. With this in mind, the police are inclined to make what they call 'Money Arrests', which are essentially an arrest to scare people into getting baile…
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Thanks for sharing. When I read stories like this and the original article, I genuinely wonder how long it will be before the people start to fight back. And I mean literally fight. I'm not for a second suggesting that any individual should fight or even argue with the police, but I can't imagine how an entire society can tolerate this kind of behavior from the police. As much as I hate to say it, it really only seem…
Next time you get jury duty, and a cop takes the stand (or even if not), remember how cops treat the citizens they serve.