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Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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Back in November, I was arrested in Brooklyn for running a red light on my bike while on my way to work in Manhattan. Normally you're given a ticket and let go, but in this instance, the officers took issue with the fact that I was not carrying ID. Both officers told me that I "could be arrested for not having ID." For clarification, I asked if it was a city, state, or national law, and the officers adamantly maintai…

Arrested. NYC. Turnstile ducking. No Miranda rights. Zero crim history. Mugshot. Prints. Solitary 5 hours. I recommend you listen to this if you're wondering why (apart from bullshit police state) people like us are getting arrested for petty offences: http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/414/r...

Just a quick clarification since people assume Miranda Warning is required, it is only required before interrogation. If they visually watched you duck turn style they don't have much reason to interrogate you about it and will skip Miranda.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miranda_warning Edit: See the section called "The six rules"

Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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Back in November, I was arrested in Brooklyn for running a red light on my bike while on my way to work in Manhattan. Normally you're given a ticket and let go, but in this instance, the officers took issue with the fact that I was not carrying ID. Both officers told me that I "could be arrested for not having ID." For clarification, I asked if it was a city, state, or national law, and the officers adamantly maintai…

Arrested. NYC. Turnstile ducking. No Miranda rights. Zero crim history. Mugshot. Prints. Solitary 5 hours. I recommend you listen to this if you're wondering why (apart from bullshit police state) people like us are getting arrested for petty offences: http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/414/r...

Adrian Schoolcraft, a good cop. Pay attention to how he was treated.

Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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I exist whether you know it or not. I'm not a leprechaun. What is your point?

Three parties: you, good cops, leprechauns. Of the three, with whom have I ever had a conversation? (Hint: this is a singular answer!)

So we've established that leprechauns exist, but that still doesn't address the issue of good cops.

Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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Those of you who are still in denial and think that this person did something wrong, should read up about the Amelie leMoulac case. TL;DR: woman on a bike gets run over by a truck. SFPD claims they couldn't find any surveillance video, blames the cyclist and lets the trucker go. A couple of days later, an SFBC (SF bike coalition) person decides to go around and ask the nearby merchants; and finds a shop with surveillance video that shows trucker was at fault.

Note also how the SFPD comes by and harasses the protestors, and puts other bicyclists at risk by blocking the bike lane: http://sf.streetsblog.org/2013/08/21/at-safe-streets-rally-s... http://sf.streetsblog.org/2013/08/23/sfbc-finds-what-sfpd-di...

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Voting should be independent of opinion, should it not? Voting should reflect the merit of a post regardless of its popularity, right? Comments with little more substance than "cops should die" shouldn't be at the top of a comment page, right? You're 0 for 2 with me so far. Don't join the debate team.

This is the top comment right now: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ie3mmcm0acuzxgv/Screenshot%202014-... Do you read this 1000+ word well written point as "having no more substance than 'cops should die'"? Or did you simply decide that you should just ignore that post since it didn't fit your utterly insane narrative? Never mind the fact that even the exact post youre referencing doesn't even say the thing you keep claimin…

I'm not necessarily talking about the current top comment in this particular thread. Christ, man.

Why do so many people attempt a proof-by-example and then act surprised when it fails to convince?

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> At this point, I’m left no choice but to present this case to the investigative court of public opinion, be it brave or foolish. Um, no, you can leave it to an actual court of law by finding a good attorney and filing a civil complaint. But until you find competent representation, here's a piece of advice: for the love of god and your own well-being, learn to STFU. The story makes it clear OP has no idea when to st…

> you have the right to remain silent in any interaction with authorities Is it true that in some states you have to identify yourself, as in at least state your name?

Good point.

I significantly disagree with Hiibel, but alas, SCOTUS says that you have to give your name.

Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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I'm glad it wasn't just me who felt like that. I'm white, middle class, and grew up in Britain as a native. But as a member of multiple minority groups, I've seen hints of this world, and it is not pretty :( The worst part of all this? First thing I did was check the author's gender and skin colour. And then I read the article. I normally work hard to be free of the prejudice of this society we are forced to live in,…

Interestingly, I assumed the author was female until well into the story. But speaking of privilege, I can't imagine even the most obnoxious cops treating middle-class white women that way.

>I can't imagine even the most obnoxious cops treating middle-class white women that way.

Umm do you remember the OWS protests?

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While I was a student living in a "gentrifying" part of the city, I once went outside to discover my car was full of bullets. Several in the hood, several through the windows, one in the rear tire and most disconcertingly one in the driver side headrest. When I called the police and the investigator came, I could tell I was instantly suspect #1. He began grilling me lengthily about my whereabouts the night before and…

He assumed you were a gang member and the shooting was gang related. Which probably isn't a bad heuristic. Most of the time when gangs shoot up a rival gang members car, they don't accidentally get the wrong one.

Doesn't the fact that assumptions like these, when made by the police, can land you in jail or much worse prove the point?

What if he also assumed I was lying, drunk or armed?

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The police cannot be trusted, and that is not childish nonsense. It is a rational response to the fact that the police consistently act like thugs, and the problem is only getting worse. One of the most important problems is that the mechanisms for righting these wrongs are almost wholly ineffective or out-of-reach. Peretz talks a little about that in his piece. The most practical thing you can take away from this is…

> Reform will take years, and in that time you are at risk. Reform is a great sentiment... Not to sound overly pessimistic, but "reform" isn't usually how citizens extricate themselves from a police state. Totalitarian governance is inherently insular and well protected from peaceful reform, using the state monopoly on violence to maintain and cultivate its will. The antithesis of peaceful reform also conveniently st…

We don't have a police state! We have one of the shittiest justice systems in the world that protects bad actors and gives our police unlimited power to abuse their office without fear of repurcussion. However, freedom of speech is still very well protected, and therein lies our hope for peaceful resolution.

And you know what, if Aung Yung Suu-Ki is any indication, even if we did live in a totalitarian state, there would still be hope for a peaceful resolution. And that's important because I don't believe that a state born of brutality can be anything other than brutal.

Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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I'll respond to this in the same way that I responded to another user posing the same questions. Who says that they don't speak out about this sort of stuff? How many good cops do condemn this behavior? How many of them do you not hear about? What happens to cops who condemn other cops?

If you have a specific point to make regarding your parent commenter's response , then make the point, even better substantiate it with verifiable data, dont ask loaded questions. You keep railing about "several" people here claimed good cops dont exist. Please help me find that "several" EDIT: Responding to BlackDeath3's comment below ---- > I'm sorry, I don't think I'll do that Because you cant, so stop trolling. I…

>Please help me find that "several"

I'm sorry, I don't think I'll do that. If the consequence is that you completely discount what I'm saying and don't believe me, then that's fine. I don't feel like I should have to point others to relevant comments within the same comment page. I may have time to waste here, but I don't have that much.

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