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Re: Silk Road 2 Hacked, All Bitcoins Stolen

#131

Post by blhack » Thu, Feb 13, 2014, 9:59 PM UTC

sillysaurus2 wrote: post #125

blhack wrote: post #115

This is almost certainly hogshit, and anybody who has been paying even a little bit of attention over the last week can probably smell it. The "hole" in MtGox's security was a social one. You could contact customer support and claim that you had not received your coins, and they could re-issue you new ones if they chose to. There is also no evidence that this ever happened. This wasn't, and isn't, a flaw in the under…

If SR was re-issuing coins automatically, it's because they were being intentionally stupid. MtGox was re-issuing coins automatically. Due to this, Gox has lost money. Possibly a huge amount. Were they being intentionally stupid, or just stupid? Source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7222690 This transaction malleability flaw is certainly a convenient excuse. But if these people implemented their wallet softwar…

Maybe I just haven't had enough coffee today, but: where does it say there that gox was re-issuing coins automatically?

Re: Silk Road 2 Hacked, All Bitcoins Stolen

#132

Post by samstave » Thu, Feb 13, 2014, 10:00 PM UTC

gojomo wrote: post #97

Whatever happened to honor among thieves?

Well.. if they weren't stealing them bitcoins, then they wouldn't be thieves to uphold said honor...

Re: Silk Road 2 Hacked, All Bitcoins Stolen

#133

Post by zedshaw » Thu, Feb 13, 2014, 10:00 PM UTC

This is seriously the most hilarious thing I have read in a long time. Here we have a group of objectivist libertarians who believe that there should be effectively no laws other than the law of economics and self-interest who run an illegal website devoted to the pure greed of cashing in on contraband, and this is what they write:

"I’ve included transaction logs at the bottom of this message. Review the vendor’s dishonest actions and use whatever means you deem necessary to bring this person to justice." We need the government! Please, come find the guy who took all of our illegal drug money and give it back to us so we can continue to say you aren't necessary.

"Given the right flavor of influence from our community, we can only hope that he will decide to return the coins with integrity as opposed to hiding like a coward." Yes, you bad guy, you should do the right thing and think of the community not your self-interests by giving back your illegal gains back to the guy named Dead Pirate Roberts (that's totally his real name).

"Whoever you are, you still have a chance to act in the interest of helping this community." In the interest of the community?! Bwahahahaa!

"I will fight here by your side, even the greedy bastards amongst us." Like everyone on the site?!

"The only way to reverse a community’s greed is through generosity." Just like Ayn Rand said my brothers!

Then I come here and not a single person on here even notices the massive hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness. Amazing.

Re: Silk Road 2 Hacked, All Bitcoins Stolen

#134

Post by sdoowpilihp » Thu, Feb 13, 2014, 10:01 PM UTC

sillysaurus2 wrote: post #125

blhack wrote: post #115

This is almost certainly hogshit, and anybody who has been paying even a little bit of attention over the last week can probably smell it. The "hole" in MtGox's security was a social one. You could contact customer support and claim that you had not received your coins, and they could re-issue you new ones if they chose to. There is also no evidence that this ever happened. This wasn't, and isn't, a flaw in the under…

If SR was re-issuing coins automatically, it's because they were being intentionally stupid. MtGox was re-issuing coins automatically. Due to this, Gox has lost money. Possibly a huge amount. Were they being intentionally stupid, or just stupid? Source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7222690 This transaction malleability flaw is certainly a convenient excuse. But if these people implemented their wallet softwar…

Stupidity is rarely intentional. That fact doesn't negate the stupidity.

Re: Silk Road 2 Hacked, All Bitcoins Stolen

#135

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Feb 13, 2014, 10:01 PM UTC

blhack wrote: post #131

sillysaurus2 wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If SR was re-issuing coins automatically, it's because they were being intentionally stupid. MtGox was re-issuing coins automatically. Due to this, Gox has lost money. Possibly a huge amount. Were they being intentionally stupid, or just stupid? Source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7222690 This transaction malleability flaw is certainly a convenient excuse. But if these people implemented their wallet softwar…

Maybe I just haven't had enough coffee today, but: where does it say there that gox was re-issuing coins automatically?

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Re: Silk Road 2 Hacked, All Bitcoins Stolen

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Post by aaronem » Thu, Feb 13, 2014, 10:01 PM UTC

"Movement"? "Comrades"? "Freedom fighters"? Excuse me, isn't this the online equivalent of an open-air drug market he's talking about here?

Re: Silk Road 2 Hacked, All Bitcoins Stolen

#137

Post by sillysaurus2 » Thu, Feb 13, 2014, 10:02 PM UTC

blhack wrote: post #131

sillysaurus2 wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If SR was re-issuing coins automatically, it's because they were being intentionally stupid. MtGox was re-issuing coins automatically. Due to this, Gox has lost money. Possibly a huge amount. Were they being intentionally stupid, or just stupid? Source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7222690 This transaction malleability flaw is certainly a convenient excuse. But if these people implemented their wallet softwar…

Maybe I just haven't had enough coffee today, but: where does it say there that gox was re-issuing coins automatically?

Sorry, I should have linked two comments higher: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7222457

You'll note that mtgox had funds taken from it. None of these other sites [did]. They're just being flooded with junk that screws up their transaction processing. It's not really the same thing at all.

Re: Silk Road 2 Hacked, All Bitcoins Stolen

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Post by thebiglebrewski » Thu, Feb 13, 2014, 10:03 PM UTC

rglover wrote: post #24

Reports like these make me wonder what Hacker News would have looked like during the gold rush in the 1800s.

Can somebody build this please?!

Re: Silk Road 2 Hacked, All Bitcoins Stolen

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Post by awakeasleep » Thu, Feb 13, 2014, 10:03 PM UTC

Avshalom wrote: post #116

jessaustin wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suggest you think a bit harder about the causes and effects of this situation, because you seem to have them reversed.

How we got here is largely irrelevant to the very real fact that the drug trade is impossible to describe as victimless.

That attempt at logic could be applied to any number of otherwise harmeless situations. It doesn't really hold up imo.

Re: Silk Road 2 Hacked, All Bitcoins Stolen

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Post by notastartup » Thu, Feb 13, 2014, 10:04 PM UTC

how the hell do they get away with kind of heist? Wouldn't they be able to follow the blockchain addresses until arriving at the wallet they are using to cash out?