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John Yudkin: the man who tried to warn us about sugar

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Re: John Yudkin: the man who tried to warn us about sugar

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Mentioned in the article, here is the direct link to Professor Lustig's talk "Sugar: The Bitter Truth". I can personally attest to its high quality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

You might be interested in Alan Aragons take on it too: http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-ab...

Re: John Yudkin: the man who tried to warn us about sugar

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I'm currently reading "The Low-Carb Fraud", by Dr. T. Colin Campbell, who was one of the original authors of the China Study. http://www.amazon.com/The-Low-Carb-Fraud-Colin-Campbell/dp/1... Campbell has multiple degrees in biochemistry and nutrition, and from what I can tell, seems to be pretty well respected in his field. On the other hand, Gary Taube, who wrote Good Calories, Bad Calories, and who people here seem…

There is some controversy on the china study to say the least: http://rawfoodsos.com/the-china-study/

Re: John Yudkin: the man who tried to warn us about sugar

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I had to start somewhere, didn't I? Yours truly, a new HN user. IP address: 115.64.60.28

Greetings to Balgowlah, Australia! What's the weather like? Here in the UK, it is raining incessantly, and Worcester up the road is flooding due the Severn bursting its banks.

Very dry here, some rain would be nice if you could arrange that ;)

Re: John Yudkin: the man who tried to warn us about sugar

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Sugar makes you feel like you're starving. You get sleepy at the peak, "starving" at the trough... like a repeating sine wave. Leads to overeating.

But who eats sugar to get full? I (and everyone I know) eat sweets after a meal, or because I see them, not because I expect to sate my hunger with it.

Ask anyone who isn't American what the first thing they notice about the food when they visit the US.

How sweet everything is.

Re: John Yudkin: the man who tried to warn us about sugar

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I'm sure that both sugar and heroin are fine in moderation. The problem is that moderate consumption of either is known to cause overconsumption. So, perhaps not so fine in an environment of abundance.

Most people eat sugar. In fact, I'm willing to bet that the proportion of people in the western world who have eaten sugar is close to 100%. Not everyone is obese. Even in the US, where obesity is at its worst, it's around 35%. That suggests that 65% of people can consume sugar and then not become obese. Certainly amongst my peer group of middle class graduates almost everyone eats sugar and almost nobody is obese. T…

You and your peer group are at the age where your metabolism is high.

Try having the same diet when you're in your 40s and I am sure you will have a different experience.

Re: John Yudkin: the man who tried to warn us about sugar

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"Very few fossil hominins have cavities. The decline in oral health started with agriculture and resulting changes to oral microbiome." — John Hawks (paleoanthropologist). Diet has a lot to do with cavities.

At what age did these pre-agricultural people die? Age might have a lot to do with cavities.

Pre-agricultural people lived longer & healthier lives than post: The development of agriculture was terrible for individual health, but once invented we couldn't go back because the hunter gatherer approach couldn't support as many people.

Regarding cavities: I recently read of a pre-agricultural tribe who had very high cavity levels due to a diet which was very high in nuts. Most H-G tribes appear to have lower levels of cavities than modern people at all ages I believe.

Re: John Yudkin: the man who tried to warn us about sugar

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I can confirm that from my own experience. I lost 20kg in 6 months. Yes I restricted my calorie intake. But how I did that? By controlling my appetite with avoiding carbs especially sugar. Ketogenic diet is powerful tool for restricting calorie intake.

I've been doing Keto for 5 weeks now, it's an improvement and very easy to follow. Restricting calories is definitely a good way to approach weight loss. I'm so far happy with all the results.

Can you think of any other ways?

Re: John Yudkin: the man who tried to warn us about sugar

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Not all calories are absorbed. Also, I think it's safe to say that minerals and vitamins can contribute to structural/weight changes. Even water can.

Calories in-calories out declare the upper bound. No matter what vitamins you take, you can't make body produce more energy that it takes in, or else something in thermodynamics is seriously broken.

True, but useless. If the human body is extra efficient, it should have about 20% efficiency at converting energy. This means your upper bound rule tells you that if a male adult eats 400cal/day he'll lose weight. Duh! He'll lose weight at 1800cal/day; the 400cal mark is useless.

Re: John Yudkin: the man who tried to warn us about sugar

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I can confirm that from my own experience. I lost 20kg in 6 months. Yes I restricted my calorie intake. But how I did that? By controlling my appetite with avoiding carbs especially sugar. Ketogenic diet is powerful tool for restricting calorie intake.

Concur. I didn't restrict my calorie intake, and lost 40lbs eating 65% fat, 30% protein and 5% carb. As soon as I add in sugar or other carbohydrates in any capacity, I gain weight and eat much more. On a ketogenic diet I rarely even think about food - I am rarely hungry.

you didn't KNOWINGLY restrict it, or you upped your calorie expenditure...

calories in, calories out.

Re: John Yudkin: the man who tried to warn us about sugar

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But who eats sugar to get full? I (and everyone I know) eat sweets after a meal, or because I see them, not because I expect to sate my hunger with it.

Ask anyone who isn't American what the first thing they notice about the food when they visit the US. How sweet everything is.

That's me, and you're right, everything's very sweet and buttery. I guess I was thinking the article applied to me, when the answer to my question was "Americans".
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