Girls and Software

I for one don't care what gender you are the rules are the same regardless of gender.

If i happen to have a complaint about your code or anything else for that matter and you happen to be a girl ...well what do i care?

On the other hand every girl in STEM that constantly complains about how awkward the guys are just outed them selves as not a hacker gir.

A real hacker girl knows that the guys are awkward but it's not intentional the just never bothered with social skills.

A real hacker girl also puts as much value into fasion and the likes like any other hacker which is to say very little at all.

So that well dressed and social girl in IT is most likely not really a hacker then again this is just a generalization and would gladly be proven wrong.

Hell if you happen to know someone like that i would love meet her that is quite rare.

The reality of people like us with a curious nature is the we never find time to learn social skills and fasion we're just too busy satisfying our curiosity.

I personally would love to have a better fasion sense but i really need to get that arch install working perfectly :)

I don't know what exactly do you mean by "gender-appropriate", but there are feminist movements which embrace traditional ideas of femininity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipstick_feminism

I'm assuming by "super-rad" you're trying to say you're a super radical feminist. Good to see you're proud of your little ideology.

If you ever even paid attention to such studies you are trying to debunk you would realize that many take this into consideration and see that there are still differences in pay even though factors like that are taken into consideration very carefully. Even though the wage gap does lessen when those are taken into consideration.

>I suspect a lot of feminists don't have children yet, so they don't even know what it means.

Of course that is absurd. My mother is a feminist.

Then I just Wikipediaed list of feminist and it was not at ALL hard to find a bunch with children.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloria_Steinem

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naomi_Klein

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lester_Frank_Ward

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Valenti

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathy_Najimy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lars_Ohly

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Nussbaum

>To me, having witnessed my wife toiling in labor for hours, it seems ridiculous to send a woman right back to work after having given birth to her child

Nobody said women need to return to work after giving birth. The whole point of feminism is everyone has a choice to do what they want. They have a choice to go back to work, or stay at home. Or the man or same sex partner can stay at home if they wish too, without any problems.

>Also I suspect most wage gap studies neglect to mention that women automatically get half of their husbands income.

Of course that isn't what we are taking about. AT ALL. Not even close. We are talking about two people doing exactly the same job and one person getting paid less. Except it is two groups doing the same job and one group getting paid less. These are people who do equally well in their jobs.

>Are there even employers who pay their female employees less than the males?

Yes. Is it outright "I don't like women?" Probably not. See my last reply to you.

>But what if it is a privilege instead?

If you actually understood feminism rather than just blindly shot it down you'd understand that feminist just want women and men to be treated as equals. They want men to have the same opportunities to spend time with their children as women and the same opportunities to work as women without societal pressure. It's all up to the choices each individual and family wants to make for themselves. But if a women chooses to do labor in the job market she should be treated as an equal to men. That's all these feminist are saying. if she chooses not to have children, then she should also be respected.

People like to think of feminism as something that's a scary monster or something. It is simply the belief that men and women should be treated as equals. Feminism deals with men's issues too when they are unequal to that of women's such as in the realm of child custody.

And that is my blog, and I am certainly not a pickup artist.

And again your bias shows. What if there are natural reasons? Your assumption seems to be that women and men should act exactly equal, given "equality". What if that assumption is wrong? I already gave one example - women invest a lot of energy into child birth, so it seems natural that they have a higher preference, or rather privilege, to spend time with their children.

I can not read all of the studies you linked to. A lot of them are flawed anyway (I have read many of the like already). But in general I find it interesting. But when you find such a thing, like women asking for promotions less, why not learn from it and ask for a promotion?

I am not opposed to women trying to learn how to get ahead. Everybody should do that. I am opposed to unfairly blaming other people.

"Women's achievements, capabilities and potential are seen as much less than men by society."

This one for example is ridiculous. Can you point to the study that shows that? I can think of many famous women.

There is this meme going around of the female scientists who are supposedly cheated out of their fame ( https://plus.google.com/115858612877723984178/posts/Hphw8ErS... ). I looked them up on Wikipedia and the feminist story wasn't true at all. One of those women even had a chemical element named after herself (Lise Meitner).

The article you link to about boys in the classroom seems to confirm what I guessed, that boys demand more attention. There is not enough information in that article to form a real conclusion, though.