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NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Re: NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Post by mercurial »

chimeracoder wrote: post #43
osipov wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A bit offtopic but the recent "Russian anti-gay law" media coverage is as credible as this hacking story: http://www.blacklistednews.com/The_Olympics_of_Hate_in_a_Nat...

That analysis isn't entirely accurate either. For example: > Since 1993 gay sex was made legal in Russia, in 12 US States gay sex is a crime. The law is still on the books, but ever since Lawrence v. Texas [0], gay sex is legal in all 50 states (and all US territories). They're on the books simply because of inertia - there's no impetus to pass a new law repealing a law that's already been invalidated. Others include…

> This depends highly on the state. Some states even protect transgender individuals.

Are you seriously saying that you can legally fire somebody for being gay in some US states? Wouldn't you get sued for discrimination if you did that?

Re: NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Post by auctiontheory »

mercurial wrote: post #81
chimeracoder wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That analysis isn't entirely accurate either. For example: > Since 1993 gay sex was made legal in Russia, in 12 US States gay sex is a crime. The law is still on the books, but ever since Lawrence v. Texas [0], gay sex is legal in all 50 states (and all US territories). They're on the books simply because of inertia - there's no impetus to pass a new law repealing a law that's already been invalidated. Others include…

> This depends highly on the state. Some states even protect transgender individuals. Are you seriously saying that you can legally fire somebody for being gay in some US states? Wouldn't you get sued for discrimination if you did that?

Are you seriously saying that you can legally fire somebody for being gay in some US states?

Yes. I'm surprised that you're surprised. Under Obama the tide has definitely turned in favor of gay rights, but gay people are still very far from being equally protected under the law nationwide.

And if the next US President is a Republican, many Obama-era gay rights advances might very well be rolled back.

Re: NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Post by mikeash »

supergauntlet wrote: post #73
mikeash wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's your agenda? Your comment history is pretty much nothing but this topic. If you think it's so important, submit it to the front page. When it inevitably gets flagged or sinks into oblivion, then you might realize that this is Hacker News, not Russian LGBT News.

Yeah, fuck those stupid gay people, there's no overlap between hacker and LGBT circles! Who cares about something that affects a part of our community, majority rules!

What part of that semi-coherent rant is supposed to make it OK to jump into every comment thread about Russia and post the same unrelated article?

Re: NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Post by andreyf »

hrrsn wrote: post #12
pieterhg wrote: post #7

What does he think he's doing with that MacBook box! @ 1m10s

I found that very strange. It doesn't even look like the original box.

Perhaps they bought it in Russia and it has a different kind of packaging than what you get in the US? I'm pretty sure opening the thick cardboard boxes I've seen that way would be quite difficult.

Re: NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Post by br78 »

smsm42 wrote: post #74
Demiurge wrote: post #17

You can see huffingtonpost and drugereport post completely opposite, manipulative, news as far as American politics go. However, when it comes to international news, stories on both align perfectly, there is never a story that's off of the USA-party line. Russia bad! Putin bad! Olympics bad! I haven't seen a single positive thing, and I very much doubt there isn't a single positive to report. I read plenty in Russian…

There are many things I am sure they would agree on. Murder is bad. Theft is bad. I haven't read any positive thing in the press about murder or theft. Is it because they are all bought by anti-theft cabal or is it because they actually agree on it being bad? Maybe they just think Putin is bad and the preparation for Olympics was completely messed up. As for positive reports - news usually aren't positive. It always…

Murder is bad but was George Zimmerman justified? Is the death penalty just?

Never underestimated the news media's ability to split the American public in half.

News isn't usually positive, but what do you think the tone of this coverage is compared to the coverage of the London olympics?

I personally strongly dislike the way gay people are treated in Russia and I am enjoying the drubbing they're getting from Western media.

But the parent comment is right, it's eerie to suddenly hear partisan media singing from the same hymn sheet.

Re: NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Post by varjag »

chimeracoder wrote: post #43
osipov wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A bit offtopic but the recent "Russian anti-gay law" media coverage is as credible as this hacking story: http://www.blacklistednews.com/The_Olympics_of_Hate_in_a_Nat...

That analysis isn't entirely accurate either. For example: > Since 1993 gay sex was made legal in Russia, in 12 US States gay sex is a crime. The law is still on the books, but ever since Lawrence v. Texas [0], gay sex is legal in all 50 states (and all US territories). They're on the books simply because of inertia - there's no impetus to pass a new law repealing a law that's already been invalidated. Others include…

> In Russia you cannot be fired from your job for being an LGBT individual

This is entirely incorrect, you sure as hell can and good luck finding a judge overruling it.

There are polygraph companies in Moscow that help out gays to employers, and they are completely open about it.

Re: NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Post by jwr »

stevewilhelm wrote: post #37

The story wasn't 100% fraudulent: "Personal Privacy Note: Travelers should be aware that Russian Federal law permits the monitoring, retention and analysis of all data that traverses Russian communication networks, including internet browsing, e-mail messages, telephone calls, and fax transmissions." [1] "Additionally, cyber criminals may use the games as a lure in spam, phishing or drive-by-download campaigns to gai…

I find it amazing that these days these statements could be equally well applied to the U.S.A.

Re: NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Post by mercurial »

auctiontheory wrote: post #82
mercurial wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This depends highly on the state. Some states even protect transgender individuals. Are you seriously saying that you can legally fire somebody for being gay in some US states? Wouldn't you get sued for discrimination if you did that?

Are you seriously saying that you can legally fire somebody for being gay in some US states? Yes. I'm surprised that you're surprised. Under Obama the tide has definitely turned in favor of gay rights, but gay people are still very far from being equally protected under the law nationwide. And if the next US President is a Republican, many Obama-era gay rights advances might very well be rolled back.

I'm European, this might explain my surprise. My understanding was that employers were usually very careful to avoid lawsuits for wrongful termination when firing people. I had not understood that in some places, discrimination against people with the wrong sexual orientation is fair game, while discrimination against people with the wrong skin colour isn't.
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