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NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Re: NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Post by smsm42 »

memracom wrote: post #19

So many of the news stories about Russia recently have been fraudulent. Like the uproar about the child protection law that is called an "anti-gay" law, but nobody has found any evidence of the law being enforced. How many silly laws get passed in the USA that never get enforced? That's what democracy is all about. There is no wise all-knowing king who can rule by proclamation; instead we muddle through with a crowd…

Democracy is not about passing idiotic laws, enforced or not, if somebody told you so he lied. But Russian lawmaking process right now has as much common with democracy as North Korean courts have with justice. There is a king - his name is Vladimir Putin - whose word is law, and nobody is allowed to muddle anywhere without his knowledge or initiative. The flurry of insane laws from the Duma - the possessed printer, as it is called in Russia - is not some random mistake, it is a reflection of insanity setting in in Russian politics, unfortunately. To be sure, American politics has its own share of insanity, but of a completely different kind.

>>> Investigative journalism is dead. Journalists are now bought and paid for by rich patrons.

It must be very bleak in the world you live in. Knowing the price of everything and the value of nothing, indeed.

Re: NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Post by smsm42 »

znowi wrote: post #50

I yet to see a single positive report on the Sochi Olympics. If I was a conspiracy theorist, I might think there's a semi-hidden agenda to discredit the games.

You mean when you come to the hotel you booked months in advance and they say there's no room for you and then when you finally get one you have the bathroom leaking and the curtains falling down - and then you complain about it, it must be the hidden agenda to discredit?

The guys there at Sochi obviously screwed up the hospitality part. If they didn't screw up the games part, as soon as the games open, the tone would change. If they screwed up that too, the tone would stay.

Re: NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Post by supergauntlet »

mikeash wrote: post #57
osipov wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A bit offtopic but the recent "Russian anti-gay law" media coverage is as credible as this hacking story: http://www.blacklistednews.com/The_Olympics_of_Hate_in_a_Nat...

What's your agenda? Your comment history is pretty much nothing but this topic. If you think it's so important, submit it to the front page. When it inevitably gets flagged or sinks into oblivion, then you might realize that this is Hacker News, not Russian LGBT News.

Yeah, fuck those stupid gay people, there's no overlap between hacker and LGBT circles! Who cares about something that affects a part of our community, majority rules!

Re: NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Post by smsm42 »

Demiurge wrote: post #17

You can see huffingtonpost and drugereport post completely opposite, manipulative, news as far as American politics go. However, when it comes to international news, stories on both align perfectly, there is never a story that's off of the USA-party line. Russia bad! Putin bad! Olympics bad! I haven't seen a single positive thing, and I very much doubt there isn't a single positive to report. I read plenty in Russian…

There are many things I am sure they would agree on. Murder is bad. Theft is bad. I haven't read any positive thing in the press about murder or theft. Is it because they are all bought by anti-theft cabal or is it because they actually agree on it being bad? Maybe they just think Putin is bad and the preparation for Olympics was completely messed up.

As for positive reports - news usually aren't positive. It always has been so. Nobody reports positive things unless they are exceptionally positive. Fireman saves the lives of ten - news. Drunk driver plows into a tree - news. Drunk man decides not to drive but walk and safely arrives home - not news. A man comes from work, meets his wife and kisses her - not news.

Re: NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Post by smsm42 »

freshyill wrote: post #42

The real scandal is the way that jackass opened that MacBook Air. What the hell! Also I'd really like to know exactly how they hacked Mac OS X. Because if he downloaded something and then gave it his administrator password, that doesn't count as being hacked.

If you're an average journalist, it does. That looks exactly like in those hacker movies, after all.

Re: NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Post by smsm42 »

memracom wrote: post #27
Mikeb85 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty much everything we hear about Russia through English-speaking media is propaganda...

Yes. That is why we did not hear about the untraditional girl who got to second place in Russia's American Idol type of program. It was the Russian people who liked her voice and voted her up there. Did I mention that she was an American and covered with tatoos? Actually she was born in Uzbekistan but grew up in America. Check out Nargiz Zakirova for more info. And in the same show a native born black American girl w…

As opposed to other winners of Russian singer contests which are regularly given extensive coverage in prime time on CNN. Come on. 99% of US population probably don't know Russia has American Idol-like program, and of those who do, 99% don't care who won it.

Re: NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Post by Mikeb85 »

smsm42 wrote: post #76
memracom wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. That is why we did not hear about the untraditional girl who got to second place in Russia's American Idol type of program. It was the Russian people who liked her voice and voted her up there. Did I mention that she was an American and covered with tatoos? Actually she was born in Uzbekistan but grew up in America. Check out Nargiz Zakirova for more info. And in the same show a native born black American girl w…

As opposed to other winners of Russian singer contests which are regularly given extensive coverage in prime time on CNN. Come on. 99% of US population probably don't know Russia has American Idol-like program, and of those who do, 99% don't care who won it.

I don't even care about the US 'Idol' contest...

Re: NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Post by smsm42 »

mkempe wrote: post #45
tomphoolery wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's really interesting. I assumed a lot of this "hacker fear" was due to the fact that a lot of these "professional" hackers happen to exist in Russia and Eastern Europe, there have to be a few who are just not that good and do it for fun or internet points. Wouldn't imagine the professionals to be caught up in this mess, as I'm sure they have more lucrative things to work on, but maybe a younger hacker or hacker…

During ethnographic research on security perceptions in business environments, we found that most Americans in the IT domain imagine hackers to be evil foreigners -- usually Russian or Chinese. A similar research program across Europe showed the total absence of such projections in the mind of IT security professionals. It all came back to me as I watched the American media in the last few weeks, bringing a number of…

Is this baseless? I.e. it is known that both China and Russia (together with other ex-USSR space) has extensive and flourishing cybercrime economy, and enforcement there in that area is very weak. So I wonder for a random victim of cybercriminal what is the chance the latter is indeed a foreigner?

Also I assume the research was done before Snowden revelations, where it was known that foreign governments engage in cyberwarfare, but there was not known US government does the same and the US government denied it does. Reinforcing the image of the threat as the foreign one.

Re: NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Post by downandout »

It's sad that this investigation was misleading at best, fraudulent at worst. But let's be serious for a moment. Using the local Wifi in Sochi, during the Olympics or or more likely than not at any other time, probably isn't all that safe of a thing to do. MITM, content modification, etc is quite likely to occur at drastically higher rates than in many other parts of the world. Russia is a hotbed of this kind of thing, and the vast influx of relatively wealthy Olympic visitors make a prime target.

Re: NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Post by Smegger »

mladenkovacevic wrote: post #33
NathanKP wrote: post #15

The longer version of the report shows more details: http://www.nbcnews.com/watch/nbc-news-web-extra/honeypot-tes... On the phone they went to a website and ignored warnings in order to download and execute a malicious APK. On the PC they followed a link in a scammy looking phishing email to download and open a malicious Office document. On the Mac they visited a website that had an ad suggesting that they needed an…

But wait we can still stay on the #Sochiproblems bandwagon right?!

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