Such edgy. Much satire. Wow.
Please, stop talking in memes.
U mad bro?
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Very slick. I like the price as well. Unfortunately it's missing a few things that we need, such as Gantt charts, and a little better CRM features.
Hey. I'm the creator of http://duetapp.com . What CRM features would you need for the app to be useful to you?
Nice to see developers that care! I am a true believer in an app doing one thing well (a la Hoekman's "Designing The Obvious"), so maybe some of these suggestions could be rolled into a separate CRM app that integrates with Duet?
Some of the features we are looking for:
- Sales Opportunities/Leads with different stages (i.e. Identified, Qualified, In Process, etc.) (These would probably be similar to projects, just with different fields)
- Notes and history for Companies/Company "Users"
- Folders in the Files Section so, for example, we can separate Marketing Templates from Training Documentation.
- Dashboards such as Open Opportunities dollar amount, Closed Won Sales dollar amounts, etc.
- Alerts for phase completion. For example, when one phase of our project is complete, we either get an alert that this phase is complete, or the next phase is automatically created.
- Permissions.
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I'd be extremely surprised if you cannot manage to find one solution that fits your agency's needs from the plethora of SaaS products in those categories.
I'd be extremely surprised if they can. Just because there are a lot of options, doesn't mean there's any good ones. Tons of nearly identical, virtually featureless products does not make it easier to find one that actually does the job.
From personal experience, most of the issues of PM/Scrum/Kanban/Agile software is employee adoption rather than lack of features. As to CRM software, I can't say.
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#65Speaking of 37signals. I am looking for a good PM and CRM software. Either a piece of software that does both, or two separate that integrate nicely. Any suggestions? We are a Web company that handles projects including Web, Film, Photography and design. We might be developing one in house if we can't find one that meets our needs.
I spent ages looking for project management solutions and settled upon http://www.liquidplanner.com/ which I'm very happy about. I blogged about why I made the choice, i.e. what it has that other tools doesn't, here: http://www.databasesandlife.com/liquid-planner/
Great review. Thanks for that information. I'll keep that one in mind as well.
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Why are you bragging about making a bunch of uninformed, knee-jerk assumptions about someone you know nothing about? And why is this trash the top comment? Whether or not $20/month is too much does not depend on whether you have $20 to spend or not, it depends on the value you get from that $20. Products with very little value, and which have $0 alternatives that provide more value are not worth $20.
Made by some concerned youths I don't think he's too far off. Point being getting so pissed to make an entire website about a company you don't like says more about you than it does the company.
I dunno, 37s got pretty childish on twitter. I think this is a lose lose situation, both parties look like amateurs.
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#67I liked the part where I closed the tab, thus saving my eyes and computer from more stupidity.
This comment was almost as funny as the site!
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Why are you bragging about making a bunch of uninformed, knee-jerk assumptions about someone you know nothing about? And why is this trash the top comment? Whether or not $20/month is too much does not depend on whether you have $20 to spend or not, it depends on the value you get from that $20. Products with very little value, and which have $0 alternatives that provide more value are not worth $20.
> Why are you bragging about making a bunch of uninformed, knee-jerk assumptions about someone you know nothing about? You mean I'm in the bad making assumptions about a person making "a bunch of uninformed, knee-jerk assumptions" for other people in the form of a mean "parody" site? Besides, who told you I "know nothing about" that person? I know what he wrote, and I know the tone he used. And I also have a pretty g…
Why do you think responding to "you are making a bunch of uninformed assumptions" with more uninformed assumptions is productive? Protip: some of us saw this site when it was made 2 years ago. Some of us are even aware of the context of 37signals founders being abusive on twitter that the site was created in response to. That does not mean we are all the people who made the site.
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>Judging from the fact that their service has good reviews in major media and millions of users They have no reviews in major media. They have both good and bad reviews in minor media. The "millions of users" claim is not supported at all. >Any examples? Surely those mythical people know how to save a screenshot, right? Yes, I happen to collect screenshots of things that are well known every time anyone talks to me a…
> They have no reviews in major media. They have both good and bad reviews in minor media. Well, I don't think PC Magazine, for one, is a "minor media" in the IT industry. Or that being called "best" in your category is a "bad review". > The "millions of users" claim is not supported at all. Supported by whom? You mean you don't believe the user numbers they give? Being able to support a 10+ year old company, with 40…
>>random redditard
>OK, this is HN.
I believe that was his/her point. I'm clearly not the first person to have noticed that your contributions are few and far between, with much garbage taking up that in between. Your posts would be welcomed on reddit, here they serve only to drag HN down.
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#70That's not funny or educational or even interesting. It looks like jealousy or unfounded hate. I can't really think of anything 37signals has done to warrant this. They make good products and treat both their employees and customers well. Am I missing something?
>That's not funny or educational or even interesting. Two of those are subjective and I'll ignore. But it is educational, it links to alternatives to 37 signals products. >I can't really think of anything 37signals has done to warrant this The company and its reputation was built on aggressively bad-mouthing and trash-talking anyone and everyone they could. Remember when rails started out? Anyone who dared to like so…
> The company and its reputation was built on aggressively bad-mouthing and trash-talking anyone and everyone they could.
Interesting, this Wired article[0] seems to back up this perception. In this light the 67signals page may be somewhat insightful by parodying the opinionated-jerk rockstar programmer caricature, if a little too mean-spirited and lacking in wit.
[0] http://www.wired.com/techbiz/media/magazine/16-03/mf_signals...