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Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?

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Re: Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?

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Post by erjjones »

trigger wrote: post #19
bhouston wrote: post #13

Someone should write a speed test website that looks to read from a set of common cloud services and then compares the speeds and records this based on ISP and location. This shouldn't be hard to setup and you'll get a ton of page views probably for ever. One can then see degradations over time and based on ISP. Would be even nicer to have some controls in there too so you can see if well known cloud services are slo…

Netflix already do this, http://ispspeedindex.netflix.com/

Did you check out the other countries. We get the shaft on speeds for sure.

Re: Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?

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Post by yxhuvud »

Xylakant wrote: post #28
leobelle wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Netflix is already doing this: http://ispspeedindex.netflix.com/usa

A rough look at the data suggests that Verizon DLS used to be around a stable 1.4 Mbps until October 2013 and is on a continuous decline since then with a current low of 1.17 Mbps. That would support the OPs theory, but it's only a single datapoint that may have other underlying causes.

It can also be so simple that there is some pipe that is full somewhere along the way that will be upgraded eventually.

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bhouston wrote: post #13

Someone should write a speed test website that looks to read from a set of common cloud services and then compares the speeds and records this based on ISP and location. This shouldn't be hard to setup and you'll get a ton of page views probably for ever. One can then see degradations over time and based on ISP. Would be even nicer to have some controls in there too so you can see if well known cloud services are slo…

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Re: Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?

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Post by joshuacc »

I have also noticed a similar effect on Verizon FIOS, where some video services work perfectly well during the day, but around 5pm or so start getting incredibly slow to buffer. Whether this is intentional throttling I'm not qualified to say, but it makes me quite hesitant to use Verizon in the future.

Re: Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?

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Post by nhangen »

zaraflan wrote: post #31
ef4 wrote: post #12

I think the ISPs are going to eventually regret this. Once you get a reputation for having a crappy product, it's hard to lose it. And they will get that reputation. Their own advertising has often touted how well their service can stream Netflix. People are already primed to judge them on it, because the industy's own advertising has taught them to . Stupid stupid.

Comcast/Verizon/AT&T/et al already have terrible reputations. They also have dominant local monopolies and the legislative power to defend them.

I disagree. Here in Florida, Verizon FIOS has an excellent reputation and the product is far superior to the other choices we have.

It's also the first place I've lived where I have choice (Brighthouse being the other player).

Time Warner and Comcast are definitely among the worst though, and I suspect that if the OP is correct, it won't be long until Verizon joins them.

Re: Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?

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Post by incongruity »

squigs25 wrote: post #37
RyanZAG wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By far the most correct observation. These guys are just following a script - they probably don't even know what half of the words mean. Please don't read anything into it or assume the outsourced support is somehow privy to anything at all that goes on inside Verizon other than what the FAQ system he's using tells him on screen.

I wouldn't read into this even if it wasn't an outsourced support person. But the proof is in the pudding, the speed tests speak for themselves, no?

But the proof is in the pudding, the speed tests speak for themselves, no?

That's exactly it -- multiple, independent yet individually unreliable measures can actually produce very reliable aggregate evidence through convergence. This is particularly true if one uses abductive reasoning, but IIRC, there's statistical proof behind this idea as well...

That is to say that the speed tests say something and the chat says something, but together, they begin to paint an troublesome picture. Combine that with the timing and it starts to look bad. More data points will add to that convergent picture, of course...

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