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Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?

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Re: Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a lot of complexity involved with network connections. There are many plausible alternative explanations for your and the author's problems. One or two people talking about their experience isn't the kind of data you would need to jump to the conclusion that your ISP is throttling your internet connection.

if only we had a distributed group of people, all of whom with a vested interest in figuring this out, that could help us with doing speed tests in variety of configurations…

Netflix is already doing this:

http://ispspeedindex.netflix.com/usa

Re: Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?

#12
I think the ISPs are going to eventually regret this. Once you get a reputation for having a crappy product, it's hard to lose it. And they will get that reputation.

Their own advertising has often touted how well their service can stream Netflix. People are already primed to judge them on it, because the industy's own advertising has taught them to.

Stupid stupid.

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#13
Someone should write a speed test website that looks to read from a set of common cloud services and then compares the speeds and records this based on ISP and location.

This shouldn't be hard to setup and you'll get a ton of page views probably for ever.

One can then see degradations over time and based on ISP. Would be even nicer to have some controls in there too so you can see if well known cloud services are slower than non-cloud services.

Re: Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?

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This is probably only the beginning. On demand video directly threatens the television business model of these companies. They will use every technology available to them to throttle users like crazy until they are compelled not to, either by the market (consumers en masse) or by regulation.

Re: Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?

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post #12

I think the ISPs are going to eventually regret this. Once you get a reputation for having a crappy product, it's hard to lose it. And they will get that reputation. Their own advertising has often touted how well their service can stream Netflix. People are already primed to judge them on it, because the industy's own advertising has taught them to . Stupid stupid.

IN the perfect world of competition, true.

Unfortunately most people have very few ISP options.

Re: Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?

#18
Oh dear. Looks like the work left for Google Fiber isn't done yet. Hoping they'll make a run in New York (or at least upstate where I intend to move), but that's a long shot.

I wonder how much independent ISPs could make if they stick to a small list of customers, but take up the "We Don't Throttle" stance.

Re: Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?

#19

Someone should write a speed test website that looks to read from a set of common cloud services and then compares the speeds and records this based on ISP and location. This shouldn't be hard to setup and you'll get a ton of page views probably for ever. One can then see degradations over time and based on ISP. Would be even nicer to have some controls in there too so you can see if well known cloud services are slo…

Netflix already do this, http://ispspeedindex.netflix.com/

Re: Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix?

#20

Someone should write a speed test website that looks to read from a set of common cloud services and then compares the speeds and records this based on ISP and location. This shouldn't be hard to setup and you'll get a ton of page views probably for ever. One can then see degradations over time and based on ISP. Would be even nicer to have some controls in there too so you can see if well known cloud services are slo…

...and some rather heady bandwidth bills.
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