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Re: Put.io

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Post by Anderkent »

krisdol wrote: post #149
gcb0 wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is just silly. It will make the download slower for the majority of people in some weird cases (i.e. bastards that download and stop right away when done, making the end of the files really rare) That said, I have 7 torrents of pretty uncommon data that is lingering with missing parts. none of the movies, so i doubt it is because someone used sequential download. Point being, for movies and music, where sequenti…

Sequential downloading defeats one of the primary goals of torrents: to make rare data common. If only one peer has chunk ae986f6ea789 of a torrent, it makes sense that you'd want to download that chunk first in case the peer disconnects before it's fully seeded. Even with movies/music, 70% of the peers may have the first 70% of the movie downloaded, so if you join the swarm it would make sense to throw you at the fi…

There's no need to do purely sequential download, though. You only need to download sequentially at the speed of playback, the rest of your bandwidth can go to the rarest chunks.

Re: Put.io

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Post by melloclello »

Thrice today I've clicked on a link to put.io (which was upvoted on a number of sites), scrolled around absentmindedly for a bit, and left. It was only just now that I thought, 'wait a second' and clicked back, to realise that your site is a bittorrent service (and one that I may actually use since my free EC2 instance (which I was using as a torrent box) just expired).

I guess what I'm saying is, you might want to unbold 'Hassle-free' and embolden the word 'torrenting' in your byline. Or something like that. Here's what my brain saw when I went to your site:

http://i.imgur.com/9D78Bx9.png

I'm not being snarky, but I am trying to help you see into the mind of a disinterested internet user in the midst of a mild social media daze.

Re: Put.io

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Post by tbarbugli »

To me it sounds very scary to make profit with something related to torrents. If I was the founder of put.io I would spend most of the time looking at the window expecting an FBI helicopter to land on my garden at any time.

Re: Put.io

#205

Post by parandroid »

ceol wrote: post #181
fridek wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my part of the world (Eastern Europe) 25 mbps no-quota costs about $20/mo (~2% avg income) in the urban areas. Outside of cities the price stays the same but usually only (A)DSL is available, with bandwidth ranging from 512kbps to ~15mbps. Accidentally, an average price of a DVD movie is also around $20. So yes, there are places where fast internet is affordable, yet movies are not. Unless you want to watch only o…

If a $20 DVD isn't affordable, $20/mo internet isn't. (I'm also fairly skeptical that your average DVD movie is $20, as though that's the absolute lowest you'll ever pay.) Movies aren't a God-given right, so it's not like you deserve a set amount of movies per month. Even then, while that situation is certainly more excusable, you're still the minority . That site isn't made for the Eastern European lower class who c…

I have a cheap internet connection (16Mbit, ~$13/month), and I'm not a minority. In my country, having an internet connection that's speedy enough for video streaming is not a luxury. And yet, I can't even buy anything off iTunes, Google Play Store, not to mention Netflix and other similar services. In fact, we even got PayPal only in mid 2013 (and not even the full service - we can only send money and can't receive anything), that's how "open" the internet is to our market.

Also, my country is in southern Europe, not part of the EU yet.

> The vast majority of people will be using this to watch movies they don't feel like paying for.

I think this is highly biased towards your own ideas of how someone could use such service. You are, in fact, projecting[0] your own probable scenarios to large group of people you have never met, living in countries you've only heard of in the news. That, sir, is unfair. You should not stick with generalized opinions and prejudice, mkay?

[0]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

Re: Put.io

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Post by Blahah »

steinnes wrote: post #200
andreasvc wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This argument is moot when you're streaming some blockbuster movie, there will not be any rare chunks to speak of. The client could implement a threshold where sequential downloading is only switched on when there are x number of seeders.

But BitTorrent wasn't invented to stream movies.

Who cares what it was invented for: we can use it for this. If we only ever used tools as intended the world wouldn't have progressed very far.

Re: Put.io

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Post by michaelmior »

xerophtye wrote: post #55

Umm... maybe i am misunderstanding their service, but i fail to see the point. With put.io, a server can torrent the file for me. And then... i stream it from the server... So, my pc still needs that gigabits of transfer, at my usual net speed. Where was the gain? Couldn't i have used the same time to torrent it? In fact i would have to torrent it ONCE, but with put.io i have to stream (and thus effectively download…

The biggest advantage from other commenters seems to be that put.io has a fairly large user base and if another user has already downloaded a torrent you want, it's available instantly in your put.io account.

Re: Put.io

#208

Post by slashdotaccount »

nkuttler wrote: post #199
slashdotaccount wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Use BitCoin.

Don't overestimate bitcoin's anonymity. Because it's not anonymous. It not CamelCased either. Oh well.

Bitcoin can be used anonymously (Tor, encryption, mixers).

> It not CamelCased either

Thanks.

Re: Put.io

#209

Post by goldfeld »

merry-year wrote: post #190
TallGuyShort wrote: post #82

It seems as though the primary use case being discussed and implied is torrenting of media that is not legal (however ethical you feel it may be) to torrent in many countries. Please remember that when you do so, you weaken the case the rest of us have against the same laws you're ignoring, against DRM, against intrusions into our privacy, and against unfair ISP practices.

Just the opposite - every time you buy any content from the evil media mega corps you're funding their war against privacy, democracy and individual freedoms.

Exactly. When SOPA came looming around, I realized my digital buying habits had in effect been indirectly funding lobby activities to make the internet and my life worse. That's when I decided to stop giving them money.
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