I think that global warming is a positive phenomenon and we should try to accelerate it. Most people would prefer a to live in slightly warmer climate than they do now.
Your Warming World: Climate change where you live 1894 – 2013
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Re: Your Warming World: Climate change where you live 1894 – 2013
#32http://www.google.com/finance?q=INDEXDJX:.DJI Look at the Dow Jones index. If you look at it today, it looks like a dramatic drop. If you look at it in the span of several years, that drop looks somewhat trivial. Same thing goes for climate change. Go back 1 billion years, and you will find that the earth has warmed and cooled far more dramatically than in the last 100 years. I'm not denying anthropogenic global warm…
Okay? Why even bring this up unless trying to cast a disparaging light onto global warming? You are, in fact, denying human caused global warming in your last comment, "I'm just saying that correlation does not equal causation." Every time I see this argument it's usually the first statement in the 'human's aren't really causing global warming, so we shouldn't try to fix it' circle-jerk. What is the worst thing that…
And your parent post talked nothing about changing how humans use the resources of this earth. He was pointing that if you look at data a certain way, you can use it to fit conclusions that may be incorrect.
He was just making the point that you need to have context when looking at data. Framing data to prove your point doesn't make your point correct (though, it doesn't make it incorrect either). Weather at a macro level is extremely complicated. Knowing if we understand all the variables involved is a very difficult task.
Be careful to the conclusions you jump to on such a small data set. Even 1000 years of perfect weather data when a planet that is billions of years old may not be as helpful as one would hope.
Re: Your Warming World: Climate change where you live 1894 – 2013
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Stop questioning, start panicking. If you want to make a difference start recycling, buy some solar panels, and think about how amazing it is to be poor in exchange for saving the planet. If more people gave 10% of their income we can stave off the apocalypse, end of humanity, rapture, end times, whatever you want to call it. The rich will never inherit the kingdom of Mother Earth.
If you recycle anything except metal you are making the problem worse not better. Solar panels are a poor choice, they help somewhat but they are far too expensive for what they provide. If you actually want to make a difference then agitate for more nuclear power. There is absolutely nothing else that will help.
I'd rather agitate for a dyson sphere with a little hole facing Earth, but I guess I was born too early for that.
Re: Your Warming World: Climate change where you live 1894 – 2013
#34http://www.google.com/finance?q=INDEXDJX:.DJI Look at the Dow Jones index. If you look at it today, it looks like a dramatic drop. If you look at it in the span of several years, that drop looks somewhat trivial. Same thing goes for climate change. Go back 1 billion years, and you will find that the earth has warmed and cooled far more dramatically than in the last 100 years. I'm not denying anthropogenic global warm…
This is a ignorant response. The nature of climate change isn't the empirical data; that's simply validation of the various scientific models of the earths climate. To date our models have been fairly accurate and we've been predicting this as far back as the 1800's.
Re: Your Warming World: Climate change where you live 1894 – 2013
#35http://www.google.com/finance?q=INDEXDJX:.DJI Look at the Dow Jones index. If you look at it today, it looks like a dramatic drop. If you look at it in the span of several years, that drop looks somewhat trivial. Same thing goes for climate change. Go back 1 billion years, and you will find that the earth has warmed and cooled far more dramatically than in the last 100 years. I'm not denying anthropogenic global warm…
Okay? Why even bring this up unless trying to cast a disparaging light onto global warming? You are, in fact, denying human caused global warming in your last comment, "I'm just saying that correlation does not equal causation." Every time I see this argument it's usually the first statement in the 'human's aren't really causing global warming, so we shouldn't try to fix it' circle-jerk. What is the worst thing that…
> What is the worst thing that happens if we try to address global warming, human caused or not?
It costs money. And why should we? If humans are really able to have a significant impact on the climate, we should try to warm the planet. I would personally prefer about 3 C warmer climate (central europe).
> Stop it.
No, you stop being so fucking patronizing.
Re: Your Warming World: Climate change where you live 1894 – 2013
#36http://www.google.com/finance?q=INDEXDJX:.DJI Look at the Dow Jones index. If you look at it today, it looks like a dramatic drop. If you look at it in the span of several years, that drop looks somewhat trivial. Same thing goes for climate change. Go back 1 billion years, and you will find that the earth has warmed and cooled far more dramatically than in the last 100 years. I'm not denying anthropogenic global warm…
Okay? Why even bring this up unless trying to cast a disparaging light onto global warming? You are, in fact, denying human caused global warming in your last comment, "I'm just saying that correlation does not equal causation." Every time I see this argument it's usually the first statement in the 'human's aren't really causing global warming, so we shouldn't try to fix it' circle-jerk. What is the worst thing that…
You think we should 'try to fix it' even if it's not human-caused (CO2)? Even if it's caused by sun or natural cycles or something else? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
Re: Your Warming World: Climate change where you live 1894 – 2013
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well-established scientific theories have long had deniers. That did not make them not science.
Climate sensitivity is far from "well-established" science.
What, in your opinion, would make it "well-established?"
Please give us some tangible ways to determine it.
Re: Your Warming World: Climate change where you live 1894 – 2013
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well-established scientific theories have long had deniers. That did not make them not science.
Climate sensitivity is far from "well-established" science.
It's more established than politically motivated hacks pointing out that it gets cold in winter.
Re: Your Warming World: Climate change where you live 1894 – 2013
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Okay? Why even bring this up unless trying to cast a disparaging light onto global warming? You are, in fact, denying human caused global warming in your last comment, "I'm just saying that correlation does not equal causation." Every time I see this argument it's usually the first statement in the 'human's aren't really causing global warming, so we shouldn't try to fix it' circle-jerk. What is the worst thing that…
It's horrible how climate change is now a religion not a science. "Deniers and believers".
You mean like this? http://youtu.be/KXosjqvMtlo?t=5m35s
Re: Your Warming World: Climate change where you live 1894 – 2013
#40http://www.google.com/finance?q=INDEXDJX:.DJI Look at the Dow Jones index. If you look at it today, it looks like a dramatic drop. If you look at it in the span of several years, that drop looks somewhat trivial. Same thing goes for climate change. Go back 1 billion years, and you will find that the earth has warmed and cooled far more dramatically than in the last 100 years. I'm not denying anthropogenic global warm…
Okay? Why even bring this up unless trying to cast a disparaging light onto global warming? You are, in fact, denying human caused global warming in your last comment, "I'm just saying that correlation does not equal causation." Every time I see this argument it's usually the first statement in the 'human's aren't really causing global warming, so we shouldn't try to fix it' circle-jerk. What is the worst thing that…
This is basically Pascal's Wager (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal's_Wager), and I don't think it resulted in many Christians recently. Why do you think it would work better wrt attitude towards global warming?