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Why we love Mozilla Persona

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Re: Why we love Mozilla Persona

#81

Yet another OpenID/OAuth/Whatever? Another SPOF. Give me separate logins and KeePass any day.

simply wrong. This is NOT another OpenID. Your judgment is an ignorant one. The long-term vision is even further from the current substantial departure from OpenID: to be verified by your browser instead via JS etc.

Re: Why we love Mozilla Persona

#83
post #68

I really like the idea of Persona, and it's very easy to integrate with your own site. However, it's still a bit unreliable. For example, clicking on the zonino login button just opened a mostly-blank page for me (white on the left, light grey on the right, with a pointy arrow in the middle; a bar at the bottom says "Mozilla Person...", but no way to log in. If I do "F10 -> View -> Page Style -> No Style" I see vario…

Do you use NoScript? Persona is heavily Javascript-reliant.

I do, but it's disabled for persona.org. Even if I "Allow Scripts Globally" it still doesn't work.

Re: Why we love Mozilla Persona

#85
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's an example: I just failed to login to Zonino myself. I enter in the Gmail address that I use for registrations and other junk. I get the message: "Accounts don't match. You are currently signed into Google as [my normal Gmail address]. ... Force Google logout?" Forget that. I'm not interested in logging out of Gmail. Logging out of #1, into #2, out of #2 and back into #1 is more work that simple registration.…

Do you get this problem if you use a different browser for the other gmail account?

No, and that is what I would usually do since I understand how these things work. (IE does come in handy at times.) The point that I am trying to make is that normal users who don't know these tricks can run into this barrier.

Re: Why we love Mozilla Persona

#87

I don't get why persona needs its own branding... Nobody knows what persona is. It should say login with Firefox. Did fb create a new brand for its login system? No it's just login with fb, same with literally every login service except freaking persona. Use your most popular brand instead of forcing all developers to evangelize a new brand. That's just not going to freaking work.

The problem with that is confusing users. When you have a "login with firefox" option you will get "but I don't use firefox anymore, I switched to chrome".

Re: Why we love Mozilla Persona

#88

I don't get why persona needs its own branding... Nobody knows what persona is. It should say login with Firefox. Did fb create a new brand for its login system? No it's just login with fb, same with literally every login service except freaking persona. Use your most popular brand instead of forcing all developers to evangelize a new brand. That's just not going to freaking work.

Persona works across browsers, so "log in with Firefox" is worse IMO.

Re: Why we love Mozilla Persona

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post #58
post #24

In principle, Persona is great. Not storing passwords is awesome, a non-FB/Google/Twitter identity option is important. I would encourage you, though, to look carefully at your login completion metrics. I implemented Persona on my site ( http://www.sixquestions.co ) to have a pure email option and although users clearly prefer it, about 35% complete the Persona login flow successfully. That's 10 points lower than our…

Here's an example: I just failed to login to Zonino myself. I enter in the Gmail address that I use for registrations and other junk. I get the message: "Accounts don't match. You are currently signed into Google as [my normal Gmail address]. ... Force Google logout?" Forget that. I'm not interested in logging out of Gmail. Logging out of #1, into #2, out of #2 and back into #1 is more work that simple registration.…

Gah. We still need to switch from OpenID to OAuth for our GMail bridge; OpenID doesn't allow us to tell Google what address we're trying to authenticate. Sorry!
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