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Why we love Mozilla Persona
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Re: Why we love Mozilla Persona
#62In principle, Persona is great. Not storing passwords is awesome, a non-FB/Google/Twitter identity option is important. I would encourage you, though, to look carefully at your login completion metrics. I implemented Persona on my site ( http://www.sixquestions.co ) to have a pure email option and although users clearly prefer it, about 35% complete the Persona login flow successfully. That's 10 points lower than our…
Here's an example: I just failed to login to Zonino myself. I enter in the Gmail address that I use for registrations and other junk. I get the message: "Accounts don't match. You are currently signed into Google as [my normal Gmail address]. ... Force Google logout?" Forget that. I'm not interested in logging out of Gmail. Logging out of #1, into #2, out of #2 and back into #1 is more work that simple registration.…
Interesting. Persona likely needs work when it comes to multiple Gmail accounts when using the Account Bridging.
Re: Why we love Mozilla Persona
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hmm, right. It seems that interest has died down a bit, so maybe it'd be worth spending some man-hours keeping it alive, even if it takes away from development time. The community could maybe help with development? If not with Firefox OS/Accounts, at least with the web component.
I have, but not much of the community seems interested in helping out. To be fair, it's also pretty hard to help out while the team is focused on doing other stuff.
I'd be glad to help any way I can, my email is in my profile. Persona is amazing and needs to survive and thrive in my opinion...
Re: Why we love Mozilla Persona
#64In principle, Persona is great. Not storing passwords is awesome, a non-FB/Google/Twitter identity option is important. I would encourage you, though, to look carefully at your login completion metrics. I implemented Persona on my site ( http://www.sixquestions.co ) to have a pure email option and although users clearly prefer it, about 35% complete the Persona login flow successfully. That's 10 points lower than our…
I agree. Though facebook tends to track users, people are so used to see the facebook login button that they feel comfortable with it. Persona, though really good, feels different and makes the me a bit uncomfortable as an end user.
Re: Why we love Mozilla Persona
#65In principle, Persona is great. Not storing passwords is awesome, a non-FB/Google/Twitter identity option is important. I would encourage you, though, to look carefully at your login completion metrics. I implemented Persona on my site ( http://www.sixquestions.co ) to have a pure email option and although users clearly prefer it, about 35% complete the Persona login flow successfully. That's 10 points lower than our…
Here's an example: I just failed to login to Zonino myself. I enter in the Gmail address that I use for registrations and other junk. I get the message: "Accounts don't match. You are currently signed into Google as [my normal Gmail address]. ... Force Google logout?" Forget that. I'm not interested in logging out of Gmail. Logging out of #1, into #2, out of #2 and back into #1 is more work that simple registration.…
Do you get this problem if you use a different browser for the other gmail account?
Re: Why we love Mozilla Persona
#66If there is one company I can trust my data with, it's Mozilla.
It's funny that the few entities we'd be more inclined to trust are the ones that go out of their way to make sure we don't have to trust them: Firefox Sync does client-side encryption so you don't have to trust the server, Persona does authentication via an identity provider so you don't have to trust persona.org...
Re: Why we love Mozilla Persona
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem I have with that is that I haven't found decent identity providers last time I checked. Without some decent/proven implementations I'm hesitant to use it. I don't quite like using Mozilla's service (mostly not because of trust, it just feels half-assed not to go the extra mile and is considered an intermediate workaround/solution even by Mozilla, as far as I know). Without decent options to self host I gu…
Maybe you'll like the one I made: https://www.persowna.net/
I saw your link somewhere else in this thread.
I do like the site and I think it's a clever thing to build a service around it. But .. all of your options (well, all affordable ones, all that I even looked at for myself plus family) are hosted, right? I could use my own domain, but you'd be the endpoint?
Don't take that the wrong way, but you're not more trustworthy than the Mozilla Foundation.. :)
Please correct me if I missed something, but it seems as if you interpreted my self-hosted as 'can use your own domain name', no?
Re: Why we love Mozilla Persona
#68I really like the idea of Persona, and it's very easy to integrate with your own site. However, it's still a bit unreliable. For example, clicking on the zonino login button just opened a mostly-blank page for me (white on the left, light grey on the right, with a pointy arrow in the middle; a bar at the bottom says "Mozilla Person...", but no way to log in.
If I do "F10 -> View -> Page Style -> No Style" I see various boxes, but it's not obvious how to proceed. I entered my email into the top-most box and tried clicking the "next", "sign in" and "OK" buttons, but none of them responded (there's also "continue", but that's greyed out). I think I had the same problem when I tried it last year.
Probably just some browser plugin issue, but would be nice if it were easier to debug... Works in Chromium though.
Re: Why we love Mozilla Persona
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem I have with that is that I haven't found decent identity providers last time I checked. Without some decent/proven implementations I'm hesitant to use it. I don't quite like using Mozilla's service (mostly not because of trust, it just feels half-assed not to go the extra mile and is considered an intermediate workaround/solution even by Mozilla, as far as I know). Without decent options to self host I gu…
Have a look at mine: https://bitbucket.org/djc/persona-totp It's less than 150 LOC of Python code (plus some HTML templates and a few basic tests).
Will do, thanks a lot.
Since my infrastructure box is mostly python based (radicale, for example) this might fit in nicely.
Re: Why we love Mozilla Persona
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe you'll like the one I made: https://www.persowna.net/
I saw your link somewhere else in this thread. I do like the site and I think it's a clever thing to build a service around it. But .. all of your options (well, all affordable ones, all that I even looked at for myself plus family) are hosted, right? I could use my own domain, but you'd be the endpoint? Don't take that the wrong way, but you're not more trustworthy than the Mozilla Foundation.. :) Please correct me…
Yes, exactly. There are currently other options if you want to be completely self-hosted (and are not a large enterprise that has multiple users and wants a behind-the-firewall option). Persowna is a more featureful/(hopefully) secure option than the default bridge.