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Re: US Media Blacks Out Snowden Interview

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Post by gamblor956 »

spenvo wrote: post #65
ck2 wrote: post #61

PBS Newshour mentioned the interview on ARD http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/what-were-watching-sunda... but obviously cannot rebroadcast the interview unless ARD gave permission. AP also mentions it http://bigstory.ap.org/article/german-tv-snowden-says-nsa-al...

If you click through the Newshour link provided... it's a re-tread (a three sentences long mention) of the same AP story provided. The links provided thus far in this thread (of which there are very few): either a.) are reporting that Snowden was-to-have an interview (not discussing the content therein) or b.) reduced a substantial interview to an inconsequential soundbite. The NYT Blog - a blog post 3 days late. Maj…

The AP feed is carried by every major and minor newspaper in the country. The point of the feed is that smaller articles can be written once and disseminated throughout the country.

Snowden doing yet another interview isn't very newsworthy. He's done interviews before, and he'll do them again. Based on the transcripts of the interview (see other posts), there isn't anything new in this interview. All in all...it's not news and the only reason it even got written about was because its Snowden.

Re: US Media Blacks Out Snowden Interview

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Post by gamblor956 »

sb057 wrote: post #136
jobu wrote: post #129

Occam's Razor - Which is more likely? 1) The US government has persuaded major media outlets CNN, FOX, MSNBC, NYT, etc. to bury the interview. 2) The German media company that did the inteview is asking foreign news outlets for more money than they're willing to pay for the interview (and is protecting its copyright by having internet copies taken down).

As shown on reddit[1], this hasn't stopped a number of other news organizations from covering it, but the coverage has been very limited. In addition, Fox, MSNBC, and CBS seem to have ignored it completely. It might not be a media blackout, but this is a somewhat significant story (moreso than Bieber being arrested, which I'm certain garnered far more time, even on the political-oriented stations). [1] http://www.red…

MSNBC didn't cover the interview because the entity ceased to exist last year. However, its successor, NBC News, did report the interview...6 days ago when it first came out. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/01/26/22454373-snowden-... This was the first result on Google.

Fox News reported the AP story here: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/01/26/german-tv-snowden-sa....

CNN covered the story here: http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/24/world/europe/russia-snowden/.

Nobody in the US regards CBS as the 4th rail of news broadcasting, but they covered it here, with video: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/snowden-nsa-conducts-industrial-...

Re: US Media Blacks Out Snowden Interview

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Post by gamblor956 »

spenvo wrote: post #3

Try searching CNN for "Snowden Interview" and there is NO mention of it. Same with MSNBC's search - nothing about this interview in the results. Also, scroll down to user "Nostromo's" counter (claiming the media did cover the story) w/links and then my reply. This kind of blatant dereliction of duty in US journalism (IMHO) presages the governments' plans for controlling the (M)essage on websites. One can only assume…

Blatantly false. A 5 second search turned up the following:

CNN covered the story here: http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/24/world/europe/russia-snowden/.

ABC News: http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/german-tv-snowden...

CBS: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/snowden-nsa-conducts-industrial-...

Fox News (AP): http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/01/26/german-tv-snowden-sa....

And see this link (German) for the explanation as to why this interview was not available in most non-German countries (including the UK) due to copyright licensing demands by the German interviewer: http://m.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/medien/edward-snowden-un....

Re: US Media Blacks Out Snowden Interview

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Post by wismer »

cinquemb wrote: post #138
wismer wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry, perhaps I misinterpreted the headline: "US Media blacks out snowden interview" as "Only US _televised_ news sources either did not report with enough depth on the interview, did not report on it entirely, or gave a delayed report; the content of which is not terribly new or substantiated with evidence [1]" One of these headlines is a short, snappier version that is considered click bait. All this coming fr…

I feel our differences in opinion are arising from what has actually taken place (I would agree with your assessment), and the spirit of what has taken place (which is just as much bending the truth as what you says has taken place by Swann, but the it does not bend in favor for interests of the general public). So yes anyone adept can access the information online (the minority as far as population percentage is con…

Right, I agree to an extent with that assessment. It would, in my mind, be more agreeable to say that the 24 hr news cycle was negligent and in dereliction of their duties as members of the free press to not report the story simply in the scope that it wouldn't generate enough viewers as, say, the Bieber thing. I don't believe there's complicity between the press and the US Govt which was (I believe) implied in the article.

But I still hold to the opinion that the coverage by mainstream press did garner enough attention from most people outside of the Internet. The Boston Globe, NYT, and the AP, covered the story.

Of course, those sources have a limited audience and I can't prove how many news outlets bought AP's story because I don't know how.

Edit: News media doesn't hold a monopoly on truth, but this was an exaggeration that can be easily refuted.

Forgive me for my initial sarcasm. You prove a good point but I don't fully agree.

Re: US Media Blacks Out Snowden Interview

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Post by tareqak »

nisdec wrote: post #128
coldtea wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any reason why it's not in YouTube? Copyright takedowns don't usually work that fast, if ever. Also any reason why it wasn't bought and uploaded to other major american media outlets? If it was an "acceptable" political story, it would be all over, not merely on archive.org.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x38jkFlPeg

I get not available in your country (Canada).

Re: US Media Blacks Out Snowden Interview

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Post by derwiki »

pavanky wrote: post #78
spenvo wrote: post #3

Try searching CNN for "Snowden Interview" and there is NO mention of it. Same with MSNBC's search - nothing about this interview in the results. Also, scroll down to user "Nostromo's" counter (claiming the media did cover the story) w/links and then my reply. This kind of blatant dereliction of duty in US journalism (IMHO) presages the governments' plans for controlling the (M)essage on websites. One can only assume…

Before you go witch hunting go read this. http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1wddfp/us_media_bl...

Given this, the title is super link-baity. Could a moderator update the title to "30 minute Snowden interview in Germany"? I still would have clicked through.

Re: US Media Blacks Out Snowden Interview

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Post by sudonim »

jobu wrote: post #129

Occam's Razor - Which is more likely? 1) The US government has persuaded major media outlets CNN, FOX, MSNBC, NYT, etc. to bury the interview. 2) The German media company that did the inteview is asking foreign news outlets for more money than they're willing to pay for the interview (and is protecting its copyright by having internet copies taken down).

It's the responsibility of the media to make the interview known to the public and direct the public to where they can view it (if they're not showing it directly on their network). When people talk about suppressing coverage, that to me is how they're doing it.

That 30 minute interview is greatly in the public interest.

Re: US Media Blacks Out Snowden Interview

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Post by glesica »

jobu wrote: post #129

Occam's Razor - Which is more likely? 1) The US government has persuaded major media outlets CNN, FOX, MSNBC, NYT, etc. to bury the interview. 2) The German media company that did the inteview is asking foreign news outlets for more money than they're willing to pay for the interview (and is protecting its copyright by having internet copies taken down).

They can re-air portions of it without paying any money (fair use), right? They do it all the time. Why not this time? And why not discuss it? They discuss findings in scientific journals without reprinting the entire articles, so why not discuss a high-profile interview without re-broadcasting the entire thing?

Re: US Media Blacks Out Snowden Interview

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Post by foobarqux »

jobu wrote: post #129

Occam's Razor - Which is more likely? 1) The US government has persuaded major media outlets CNN, FOX, MSNBC, NYT, etc. to bury the interview. 2) The German media company that did the inteview is asking foreign news outlets for more money than they're willing to pay for the interview (and is protecting its copyright by having internet copies taken down).

That isn't how western government influences media in it's own country. Media know that the US government would be very unhappy about a certain story and they know that the US government is powerful and has carrots and sticks at its disposal.

Who is going to poke the bear?

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