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Re: US Media Blacks Out Snowden Interview

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post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Before you go witch hunting go read this. http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1wddfp/us_media_bl...

This should really be the top comment. For anyone that thinks there is actually a problem here, what could the motivation or mechanism behind this "blackout" possibly be? Significant parts of the US media have been reporting pretty well on Snowden for a long time now.

ACCESS..

Journalists depend upon access to government officials to report news on government actions..

No Access to those officials virtually decimates both the Media firm income and the journalists income

Re: US Media Blacks Out Snowden Interview

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post #104
post #93

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I was really disappointed at the interview. I feel like the interviewer really just spent their time throwing softballs for Snowden, instead of asking him at least some real questions (why leak things that were obviously within the domain of par-for-the-course intelligence collection? Comments on the faux outrage by Brazil, Germany, and company? Why not hit harder at intelligence services of other countries, despite…

It's quite clear from the interview that he doesn't want to put himself into the position of revealing information himself, rather to funnel it all through journalistic sources. Furthermore it would compromise his position that his main motivation was to inform his own citizenry if he starts commenting explicitly on foreign intelligence agencies.

I might be wrong, but didn't he say that he did do filtering of some of the info before handing it to journalists? In that case the information revealed is already partly a statement on his part, because he chose not to filter it. He can't have his cake and eat it on this one.

Re: US Media Blacks Out Snowden Interview

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Try searching CNN for "Snowden Interview" and there is NO mention of it. Same with MSNBC's search - nothing about this interview in the results. Also, scroll down to user "Nostromo's" counter (claiming the media did cover the story) w/links and then my reply. This kind of blatant dereliction of duty in US journalism (IMHO) presages the governments' plans for controlling the (M)essage on websites. One can only assume…

Before you go witch hunting go read this. http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1wddfp/us_media_bl...

" 403 Forbidden Request forbidden by administrative rules. "

Found the comment by truncating the URL back to the main thread, though. Not sure why the direct URL to /cf1801o is being denied.

[back on topic]

Yah, the video, while not the usual "lets all copy/paste the AP or Reuters story as many places as possible", there HAVE been a bit of coverage.

If we're taking about suppressed stories, I'm still amazed at the utter lack of coverage of Binney/Drake's [1] amazing open letter to the president[2] that was published on Jan 7. Part of me wants to blame it on short attention spans and the usual celebrity worship; it only involves the OTHER whistleblowers, pre-Snowden, so I guess nobody cares.

I was able to find a very minor mention on Huffington Post in the week after it was published, and a few video interviews by Reason of Binney trying to promote the letter, and... that's it. (not counting the handful of "personal blog"-style articles that covered the story, of course)

    1: signatures also include Loomis, Wiebe, McGovern, Ellsberg, ... 
    2: http://consortiumnews.com/2014/01/07/nsa-insiders-reveal-what-went-wrong/

Re: US Media Blacks Out Snowden Interview

#125
post #96

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"Yes, but what about..." This is moving the goalposts.

Media reporting, on "backwater channels" (ie. Not in the 24/7 news cycle like Beiber's latest hooker or Cyrus' latest thing twerked upon) as far as the majority of the public is concerned, is now moving the goalposts? "Yes probable citizen of an affected country, you may or may not have a right to support Snowden views on the public being informed, but it is too much to for you to complain when we don't use the power…

I'm sorry, perhaps I misinterpreted the headline:

"US Media blacks out snowden interview"

as

"Only US _televised_ news sources either did not report with enough depth on the interview, did not report on it entirely, or gave a delayed report; the content of which is not terribly new or substantiated with evidence [1]"

One of these headlines is a short, snappier version that is considered click bait. All this coming from a source that promotes, among other things, the alleged (and widely debunked) link between autism/vaccines.

Color me skeptical, but when a news source bends the truth in order to grab attention, I tend to scrutinize it all the more.

Look, I support Snowden but this isn't journalism. This is hyperbole. Going to such extremes to "fight the system", to be the counter-weight to whatever scheming superpower there is, corrupts. So yes, I stand behind my original accusation that this is "moving the goal-posts". The headline claims US media blocked out the interview, but I find it rather easy to find US reports on this bit of news online. So, to re-examine the accusation, it's not true. US Media did _not_ black out the interview. So what now?

[1] He makes claims that the US spy agencies have been spying on corporations, but he does not elaborate on it. This is unusual for Snowden as he usually provides ample evidence to support his assertions. Don't you think that this would be a bigger deal if he had supplied the evidence to go along with that interview?

Re: US Media Blacks Out Snowden Interview

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post #91

This website, this source for "investigative journalism" includes a video that claims that there's a link between autism and vaccines. http://benswann.com/truth-in-media-vaccine-court-and-autism/

Not that I agree with Swann's assertion here, but it should be evaluated on its own, independent of Swann's history of being a fucking jackass. Having demonstrably idiotic opinions on one matter doesn't necessarily make a person wrong on another.

True, but it makes me scrutinize it all the more.

Re: US Media Blacks Out Snowden Interview

#127
post #79

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I'm having trouble if the ARD (or parts of it) starts dicking around with copyright restrictions. They receive a huge amount of funding from mandatory payments of all German households (you can try to avoid that if you're a poor student or poor, period, but usually you're (supposed to be) paying - by law). It's really close to a tax to pay for their content, their infrastructure. Which makes sense in a way for me, I…

But the content is freely viewable in Germany, isn't it? Imho that would easily cover their mandate to the people (who are financing them)

Well, even in Germany they failed by

- not showing this prominently enough

- not providing the original version without a lot of prodding

As for the rest of the comment: I don't know. The content's created. Why not set it free? I expect that for me/for locals, but I fail to see why you'd want to use geolocation to exclude others. Ever. The only cost at this point is bandwidth and by offering the content with a liberal license you could expect decent mirrors.

Re: US Media Blacks Out Snowden Interview

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post #37

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the full interview is here: https://archive.org/details/snowden_interview_en

Any reason why it's not in YouTube? Copyright takedowns don't usually work that fast, if ever. Also any reason why it wasn't bought and uploaded to other major american media outlets? If it was an "acceptable" political story, it would be all over, not merely on archive.org.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x38jkFlPeg

Re: US Media Blacks Out Snowden Interview

#129
Occam's Razor - Which is more likely?

1) The US government has persuaded major media outlets CNN, FOX, MSNBC, NYT, etc. to bury the interview.

2) The German media company that did the inteview is asking foreign news outlets for more money than they're willing to pay for the interview (and is protecting its copyright by having internet copies taken down).

Re: US Media Blacks Out Snowden Interview

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post #3

Try searching CNN for "Snowden Interview" and there is NO mention of it. Same with MSNBC's search - nothing about this interview in the results. Also, scroll down to user "Nostromo's" counter (claiming the media did cover the story) w/links and then my reply. This kind of blatant dereliction of duty in US journalism (IMHO) presages the governments' plans for controlling the (M)essage on websites. One can only assume…

I worked in the media for umpteen years in the past. Anyone who thinks the US press colluded with the government to black out anything is flat out crazy.

They don't have to be in cahoots to black it out. The truth is far simpler: the advertisers and the majority of the staff don't like pro-snowden stories.
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