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Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Re: Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Post by meowface »

aeontech wrote: post #110
meowface wrote: post #72

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Yep, that's EVE's biggest weakness. It's a well-designed game, and the player interactions, politics, and general sandbox gameplay are fantastic, but the combat is absolutely terrible and unfathomably boring. There are actually some games out there that have EVE's sandbox features, but with combat that takes significant skill (usually in the style of a first-person shooter/slasher). Unfortunately, few of them have be…

Would you care to share the names of some of these games? I think people would check them out.

Darkfall Online and Mortal Online are two that were released in the past few years. Both have been plagued by poor development and serious bugs, especially the latter. However, when played with a group of people you trust and like, both can be extremely fun.

Here's a decently up-to-date list of EVE-like MMOs: http://sandboxt.net/sandboxt/page/SandboxMMOGamesList

Re: Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Post by cheapsteak »

inopinatus wrote: post #118
unoti wrote: post #85

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True! And Dwarf Fortress has more action, less waiting around. Eve Online is often like the real military: wait for 2 hours for 80 other people to show up, then travel for 2 hours, then wait, and then the operation gets cancelled, and travel back home for 2 hours. And you trained for 6 weeks before the event to make it all possible. Never happens like that in Dwarf Fortress!

Eve's client is lightweight enough to run two or even three instances simultaneously. So back when I played regularly I would do that (i.e. fleet manoeuvers i.e. nothing much) on my main character whilst running missions/ratting/managing production or sales with my "carebear" alternate character, or alternatively running around neighboring systems in a cloaked covert ops ship, scouting on behalf of that same fleet. A…

Do they have to be on separate accounts? (i.e. would you be paying 3 monthly subs?)

Re: Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Post by nemothekid »

na85 wrote: post #153
lifeformed wrote: post #130

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Why wouldn't writing a better JS framework improve the world? Jquery helped a lot of people get into web development, got them jobs, inspired them to enjoy programming and maybe life itself, helped the economy, helped make websites exist that directly and indirectly help people, etc. There is no reason anyone should be ashamed of doing what they love (unless of course, it's genuinely shameful). Yes, some things are m…

>Why wouldn't writing a better JS framework improve the world? Jquery helped a lot of people get into web development, got them jobs, inspired them to enjoy programming and maybe life itself, helped the economy, helped make websites exist that directly and indirectly help people, etc. Oh please. This kind of smug self-congratulatory attitude is what makes me hate echo chambers like HN. You enjoy writing code on the s…

Ah yes, if you aren't working a job that is directly helping the poor and/or wounded, fuck you for being a leech right? People lives and humanitarian efforts are solely measured in how many sick people you can save today right?

How can you be so short sighted to believe that unless you are working on a cure to cancer, that all your efforts on this planet are for naught. Does this mean if I am able bodied and finically stable, any service that benefits me and my 70 or so years on this planet are "a waste of time?" A guess every and all artists should kill themselves for not being good enough for becoming doctors right? Art never changed the world and those smug artists shouldn't believe that their paintings actually mean anything.

Someone should have told Gates back in 1975 to give up because building a better BASIC interpreter would never change the world.

Re: Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Post by saraid216 »

Tloewald wrote: post #149
saraid216 wrote: post #94

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It's worth noting that EVE is an idealized capitalist society, with all the realistic drawbacks that comes with that. I agree that the back story is essentially fantasy, but what you miss is that this doesn't mean you're a classic solo adventurer for whom the world bows down as you pass. (This isn't a jab; in most MMOs, this is the case.) EVE is principally about market simulation, and pretty much everything you do i…

Interesting points, but it's sold as a space action game. And, frankly, it could be a far more nicely put together whatever the heck it is.

/shrug

I'm not trying to get you to play. You criticized it. I'm explaining what parts of your criticism were off mark. You don't want to hear it, don't criticize it where the fanboys are.

Re: Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Post by cdash »

cheapsteak wrote: post #162
inopinatus wrote: post #118

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Eve's client is lightweight enough to run two or even three instances simultaneously. So back when I played regularly I would do that (i.e. fleet manoeuvers i.e. nothing much) on my main character whilst running missions/ratting/managing production or sales with my "carebear" alternate character, or alternatively running around neighboring systems in a cloaked covert ops ship, scouting on behalf of that same fleet. A…

Do they have to be on separate accounts? (i.e. would you be paying 3 monthly subs?)

Yes

Re: Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Post by na85 »

nemothekid wrote: post #163
na85 wrote: post #153

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>Why wouldn't writing a better JS framework improve the world? Jquery helped a lot of people get into web development, got them jobs, inspired them to enjoy programming and maybe life itself, helped the economy, helped make websites exist that directly and indirectly help people, etc. Oh please. This kind of smug self-congratulatory attitude is what makes me hate echo chambers like HN. You enjoy writing code on the s…

Ah yes, if you aren't working a job that is directly helping the poor and/or wounded, fuck you for being a leech right? People lives and humanitarian efforts are solely measured in how many sick people you can save today right? How can you be so short sighted to believe that unless you are working on a cure to cancer, that all your efforts on this planet are for naught. Does this mean if I am able bodied and finicall…

>Ah yes, if you aren't working a job that is directly helping the poor and/or wounded, fuck you for being a leech right?

Please quote where I said this.

Re: Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Post by intended »

Qworg wrote: post #146
lifeisstillgood wrote: post #127

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I'm sorry - what? Tens of thousands of people in an alliance, logging In daily, with dedicated support teams? Is this a description of the future of corporations or just not supported by server logs?

Goonswarm six or so years ago would raise 20-30k a year from donations to pay for colo and bandwidth. All hardware was donated from corporate IT takeouts.

Colo in this case means?

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Post by trentmb »

na85 wrote: post #166
nemothekid wrote: post #163

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Ah yes, if you aren't working a job that is directly helping the poor and/or wounded, fuck you for being a leech right? People lives and humanitarian efforts are solely measured in how many sick people you can save today right? How can you be so short sighted to believe that unless you are working on a cure to cancer, that all your efforts on this planet are for naught. Does this mean if I am able bodied and finicall…

>Ah yes, if you aren't working a job that is directly helping the poor and/or wounded, fuck you for being a leech right? Please quote where I said this.

You didn't say it, but that's the impression you've given both myself and parent.

Re: Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Post by trentmb »

JesseObrien wrote: post #48
kmfrk wrote: post #10

In slightly related news, $37.5M has been raised in pledges for a space simulator that still has yet to be released: https://robertsspaceindustries.com . There has to be something about space that makes people toss money at videogames.

> There has to be something about space that makes people toss money at videogames. Which is a damn travesty when people won't throw money at space in real-life. Other than a few huge backers (Musk, Branson) that have loads of money to hinge on this stuff, no one seems to care or pay attention.

Who's gonna let me fly in space for $10/mo?

Re: Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Post by riffic »

intended wrote: post #167
Qworg wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Goonswarm six or so years ago would raise 20-30k a year from donations to pay for colo and bandwidth. All hardware was donated from corporate IT takeouts.

Colo in this case means?

Co-location, rented space inside a datacenter.
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