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Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Re: Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Post by rickr »

nyrina wrote: post #16
Qworg wrote: post #11

I miss EVE but it is all consuming, especially when you're part of a great alliance/corp. As an member of Goonfleet/Goonswarm, I ran the logistics for the Battle of XZH, where a scrappy group of upstarts from Syndicate waged a weeks long insurgency against a better funded, better equipped force. We won, at least until they "bought out" the system underneath us, through superior numbers, tactics and logistics. We had…

I think it's amazing that it has kept growing more and more hardcore. I have the impression that if I started out as a complete newb now in EVE, there would be no way for me to get up to speed and be one of the big guys, running a titan(?) It's somewhat the opposite with WoW, that it's been consistently dumped down since Vanilla. I've been playing for all 10 years, thoroughly enjoyed all of it (although some expansio…

When I played Eve I never really felt the need to 'level up'. The learning curve was big enough that just farming money, and running an interceptor was fun enough for me - even after I had bigger ships.

The game really is a sandbox.

Re: Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Post by rockdoe »

rl3 wrote: post #37

EVE can be played a lot of different ways, but the novelty in each eventually wears off and it becomes monotonous. This is especially true for large-scale alliance warfare, which, if you're at the top is something like a full-time job, and if you're merely rank and file, it's more like a part-time job. In my opinion, the meta-game is more fun than the game itself in this context. There's an entire ecosystem that exis…

Good summary, I agree with everything you say. I'm finding reading up on the political evolution is as much fun as actually playing.

Re: Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Post by aaronem »

e12e wrote: post #30
aaronem wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

EVE Online and Star Citizen both happen in space, but they're not a lot alike aside from that; the former is a point-and-click tactics 'n strategy simulator where a "skill" is something your character eventually levels up and becomes able to do whether you've been playing the game or not, and the latter is (will be) a first-person joystick-and-throttle space flight simulator in which things like combat and trading de…

In addition to Star Citizen, also check out the new Elite by David Braben: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-danger... (Didn't realize he was also a co-founder of the raspberry pi foundation till just now)

Apparently it's railroading time! I'm delighted to see my favorite gaming genre finally getting some love again, and especially now that we've got the computing hardware to really make a proper go of it -- Tachyon and Freespace 2 were great, but that's been 15 years ago now, and it's about time we had some new games to play.

Re: Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Post by goatforce5 »

davidw wrote: post #4

It actually looks like a pretty cool game - the description reminds me of Elite brought up to today's standards. I can't help but think of this, though: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/online_gaming

Fun trivia: David Braben, co-author of Elite, is one of the founding trustees of Raspberry Pi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Braben

Re: Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Post by rockdoe »

kibwen wrote: post #27

If you follow the link to The Mittani: http://themittani.com/news/sov-drops-b-r5-immensea-staging-s... ...you see speculation that the whole incident was triggered by a bug in the game. Has anyone confirmed that this is true? If so, it would be very disappointing. Given that the appeal of the game lies in delicate politics and long-term large-scale maneuvering, having all that work undone by a bug seems as though it…

Quite a few of the past large political shifts were due to betrayal and spies, effectively also making months of work undone instantly. The current one was due to a bug or due to a player making a mistake. I don't think players cater all that much for the difference, and we'll likely never know which one it was.

Re: Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Post by mathattack »

somnium_sn wrote: post #29
nyrina wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's amazing that it has kept growing more and more hardcore. I have the impression that if I started out as a complete newb now in EVE, there would be no way for me to get up to speed and be one of the big guys, running a titan(?) It's somewhat the opposite with WoW, that it's been consistently dumped down since Vanilla. I've been playing for all 10 years, thoroughly enjoyed all of it (although some expansio…

I think there is a huge misconception of how eve works. It's not really necessary to fly one of the big ships nor train them. But then I started 2 years ago and have 2 super carriers and a titan. It's about getting into the right corporations find the right source of ISK and play the game the way you want it. If you want to fly a titan, you can do it within two years (or less) if you are smart about it. However what…

If you want to fly a titan, you can do it within two years (or less) if you are smart about it.

Now THAT'S a commitment!

Re: Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Post by JonnieCache »

lmm wrote: post #39
JonnieCache wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've heard it described as excel with a 3D engine bolted on the front of it. Maybe one could market a tool that turns mundane corporate data entry into an exciting battle for galactic domination, and make your white collar peon employees battle each other mercilessly to increase shareholder value. If you die in the game, you get fired. EDIT: actually, please don't do that. unless you do this first: http://www.richard…

The irony is that for all Morgan's anti-corporatism, the privatization of war for profit has greatly served to reduce violence, from England's Glorious Revolution onwards. Corporations are better at avoiding war than monarchs, not because they particularly care about people per se but because war is just so wasteful.

The books are good though. Hopefully someday somebody will have the stomach to film Altered Carbon.

Re: Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Post by JesseObrien »

kmfrk wrote: post #10

In slightly related news, $37.5M has been raised in pledges for a space simulator that still has yet to be released: https://robertsspaceindustries.com . There has to be something about space that makes people toss money at videogames.

> There has to be something about space that makes people toss money at videogames.

Which is a damn travesty when people won't throw money at space in real-life. Other than a few huge backers (Musk, Branson) that have loads of money to hinge on this stuff, no one seems to care or pay attention.

Re: Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Post by bsamuels »

nyrina wrote: post #16
Qworg wrote: post #11

I miss EVE but it is all consuming, especially when you're part of a great alliance/corp. As an member of Goonfleet/Goonswarm, I ran the logistics for the Battle of XZH, where a scrappy group of upstarts from Syndicate waged a weeks long insurgency against a better funded, better equipped force. We won, at least until they "bought out" the system underneath us, through superior numbers, tactics and logistics. We had…

I think it's amazing that it has kept growing more and more hardcore. I have the impression that if I started out as a complete newb now in EVE, there would be no way for me to get up to speed and be one of the big guys, running a titan(?) It's somewhat the opposite with WoW, that it's been consistently dumped down since Vanilla. I've been playing for all 10 years, thoroughly enjoyed all of it (although some expansio…

When it comes to recommending people to EVE, the following rule of thumb has been effective: If you enjoyed playing Dwarf Fortress, you'll like EVE Online.

@That one other guy: When most people want to fly a titan, they don't bother training a character and just buy a titan pilot on the sanctioned character trading forum, so training time is rarely an issue for experienced pilots.

Re: Eve Online wages largest war in its 10 year history

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Post by sanswork »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #24
nyrina wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's amazing that it has kept growing more and more hardcore. I have the impression that if I started out as a complete newb now in EVE, there would be no way for me to get up to speed and be one of the big guys, running a titan(?) It's somewhat the opposite with WoW, that it's been consistently dumped down since Vanilla. I've been playing for all 10 years, thoroughly enjoyed all of it (although some expansio…

I'd be inclined to believe you'd be more likely to end up flying a Titan if you were to invest the training time into it, given that the larger corporations have hundreds, if not thousands of Titans lying around. Your WoW comparison is apt in that respect, Titans aren't exactly commonplace, but there's plenty more of those around than there were 'back in the day'.

Unless you're high up in an alliance or have paid for one yourself and lost it on the alliances behalf no alliance is going to toss you a titan. No corp has hundreds of titans lying around either. PL is rumoured to have ~20 on unsubbed accounts but thats the biggest stockpile.
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