I think this episode and the recent brouhaha from someone naming a CLI "bro" have shown that an attempt at humor in naming things generally just diverts the attention from the technology to other things.
Rename GTFO to GOAWAY
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#64Android has android.util.Log.wtf[1], "What a Terrible Failure". That makes me laugh and this makes me laugh and I'm all for a little humor in specifications
[1] http://developer.android.com/reference/android/util/Log.html...
Re: Rename GTFO to GOAWAY
#65I think this is a good change because GOAWAY is simpler, more obvious, and has a tone matching the actual operation. Plus, the har-har pretense that GTFO means "General termination of future operations" is childish. With that out of the way, the pearl-clutching about the word "fuck" and how unprofessional it is irritates me. We have this weird notion that it's OK for us to curse individually but that there's this wid…
You don't curse around people for the same reason you chew with your mouth closed... to be polite. That is, you do it out of consideration for others' feelings. It doesn't matter if you understand why someone could find something offensive or if you meant anything by it. Similarly, it's unprofessional to use other offensive words (such as sexist or racist terms, even the ones that aren't bleeped out in popular media).
But use whatever language you want. At the end of the day, you don't have to be considerate, but they don't have to consider you professional.
Not that being unprofessional is always a big deal. Lots of people and companies are very successful without being considered professional.
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#66I think this is a good change because GOAWAY is simpler, more obvious, and has a tone matching the actual operation. Plus, the har-har pretense that GTFO means "General termination of future operations" is childish. With that out of the way, the pearl-clutching about the word "fuck" and how unprofessional it is irritates me. We have this weird notion that it's OK for us to curse individually but that there's this wid…
We have this weird notion that it's OK for us to curse individually but that there's this wider world out there that hates cursing. I don't think that's true and we should stop acting like it is.
Hi, I'm part of the world you don't believe exists. I don't curse, the people I work with don't curse, the vast majority of my friends don't curse, and I've never heard a relative curse. It's not OK to be offensive just because you don't believe that there are people whose vocabulary is cleaner than yours.
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#67I think this episode and the recent brouhaha from someone naming a CLI "bro" have shown that an attempt at humor in naming things generally just diverts the attention from the technology to other things.
It's more that naming things is one of the two hardest things in CS, along with concurrency and off by one errors. But seriously, there are lots of clever names that everybody loves, it's just that it's easy to get clever wrong and you should think about how your name could be misinterpreted.
And you should avoid swearing, sexuality, and violence like the plague.
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The type of people that actually get offended by this stuff are rarely those involved with actually working with the protocol. I like this stuff. It reminds me that humans with a sense of humor build the things we use everyday, and not some emotionless robot.
Ultimately HTTP 2.0 is like IPv6, no-one actually cares. Having said that, people do get upset about 0xDEADBEEF and 0xCAFEBABE, those people need to get lives. Or come up with some other words using only 6 letters.
I can see how 0xCAFEBABE might cause issues in the modern tech community, but 0xDEADBEEF? Do they just hate hexspeak in general?
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Fuck and other profanities are signal words for extreme emotional state. Professionalism includes remaining fair and emotionally unaffected under most reasonable conditions. Hence the dissonance of using "fuck" and other charged (culture-dependent of course) words and sentiments in work life.
Signalling an extreme emotional state is only one of many uses for the word "fuck". It is an incredibly versatile word: (probably nsfw) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN5eYFH8HZ8
Technically that's true, but technically you can type in all caps without being emotional.
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The type of people that actually get offended by this stuff are rarely those involved with actually working with the protocol. I like this stuff. It reminds me that humans with a sense of humor build the things we use everyday, and not some emotionless robot.
Unfortunately, the type of people that actually get offended by this stuff tend to go around looking for this stuff. And once it finds it, it starts twitter campaign against you and your project. If you are have no public talking experience/training, you are going to loose and be labeled ugly names.
I kind of aspire to be that much of a "Jimmy Rustler" one day. I make it a mission to treat people with actual respect, but to be recognized and campaigned against for something like coding a not politically correct, but totally benign protocol into existence, would be an accomplishment I could only dream of at this point. I'd be flattered if someone cared that much.