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Why don't you guys split Ukraine into two parts? The western part (pre-WW2's part of Poland) is pro-western, speaking Ukrainian, the eastern part is mostly inhabited by Russians that gravitate towards Moscow. Why nobody suggests this solution?
It won't blend then.
Why do some keep calling it a civil war instead of a revolution? Sure, the government has hired/collaborated with non-government people to cause trouble/beat up the protesters, but which tyrannical government doesn't do that during a revolution? They all do it.
Because the descendands of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lviv_pogroms perpetrators will want an ethnically pure Ukraine. And East/South of Ukraine will not allow it. US state department is interested in the break up and pushing west ukr down the throat of EU(Germany) which really is not interested in that right now (EU is going down with PIIGS, but US needs even weaker EU with +50mil dirt poor Ukrainians with extremel…
Please stop this crazy Nazi bias and fear mongering. Yes, there were some parts of nationalist movements during WWII who tried to use Nazi force to establish Independent Ukraine, but this union was situational, tense and fragile (and I am not proud of it).
What is really happening in Ukraine is that both sides of this conflict (pro-Euro and against) are absolutely corrupt and the people know it. The tragedy of this is that no one from the government or opposition represents the will of the people. The population of Ukraine really just wants an end to corruption and a better national identity, euro-integration was just the last straw, but not fundamental to this crisis…
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuO53xeZkm8 Does this look like brave people risking their lives to say "No!" to tyranny, or like a bunch of young energetic people who have no idea about whats going on in politics throwing molotov cocktails at police?
I cannot account for what's happening in Ukraine but last time a video like this one released in Istanbul during protests, it was undercover police throwing molotov cocktails to armoured police vehicles. It was the only video shown by all the news agencies [0]. It is quite funny that a community of skeptics being pedantic on silliest social networking apps takes what they see in a video for granted and makes harsh ju…
Very scary similarities with what has happened in Turkey. I have amazing respect for all those brave people risking their lives to say "No!" to tyranny. They are the modern day heroes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuO53xeZkm8 Does this look like brave people risking their lives to say "No!" to tyranny, or like a bunch of young energetic people who have no idea about whats going on in politics throwing molotov cocktails at police?
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What do you expect it to look like?
I don't expect it to look like anything else. I think this violence is terrible, and counterproductive to any non-anarchist cause, such as joining EU. I want these people to go home...
Very scary similarities with what has happened in Turkey. I have amazing respect for all those brave people risking their lives to say "No!" to tyranny. They are the modern day heroes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuO53xeZkm8 Does this look like brave people risking their lives to say "No!" to tyranny, or like a bunch of young energetic people who have no idea about whats going on in politics throwing molotov cocktails at police?
It looks like a ministry or something is releasing these videos.
I live in Quebec and in August 2007 one branch of our police force did a false flag operation to discredit protesters and legitimize the use of force on civilians. They got caught by pacifist protesters who noticed the boots of the undercover cops were wearing the same boots as the police force: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St1-WTc1kow
The police force then mistranslated the events by saying that the president we see in here asking the cops to "drop the rocks" saying that the president and others were asking them to "throw the rocks". I have no trust in anything coming from my government anymore.
You know who got reprimanded for using provocateurs? No one!
Similar techniques were used at the G20 and the media is playing right into the government's hands.