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The Adulteration of Italian Olive Oil

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Re: The Adulteration of Italian Olive Oil

#11

Post by Stratoscope »

What do I see when I get to this page?

An olive skull and crossbones with EXTRA VIRGIN SUICIDE.

Let me scroll down so I can see more!

I hit the down arrow. Nothing happens.

I try the Page Down key. Nothing happens.

Ah, yes, I know, the keyboard doesn't always work on every website. I'll just use the scroll bar!

Hmm... No scroll bar.

Wait! Over on the right, there's a box with a triangle in it, pointing up.

It almost looks like the top arrow in a scroll bar. That's not the direction I wanted to go, but it looks like a clicky thing, so I'll try it.

Yay! The up arrow scrolls right! And I can click the up arrow again and it scrolls right again.

And now there's a left arrow angle bracket over on the left that scrolls left when I click it.

Why is one an angle bracket and the other a triangle?

Why does one point left and the other up?

This Must Mean Something.

But never mind that, at least now I understand that this page doesn't go up and down, it goes left and right, and I have a way to navigate it.

Hmm... Left and right? Maybe I can try the left and right keys? Yes indeedy, they work!

I feel like such a computer expert now.

Re: The Adulteration of Italian Olive Oil

#12

Post by andreasvc »

coldcode wrote: post #4

I reached the 10 article limit. Usually one can remove all the cookies but after a bunch of pages and a ton of JS executing it told me I had already ready 10 articles. So how are they doing this? Some kind of super cookie?

I removed the "ad" from the page with adblock. Had to do two passes as there was another overlay beneath the popup, but it worked just fine after that.

Re: The Adulteration of Italian Olive Oil

#13

Post by Juha »

GolfyMcG wrote: post #2

Content of the article itself aside, I think this is a very well designed piece of online content. Very easy to follow and way better than some wall of text article you'd expect to see!

I too enjoyed the nice storytelling and graphics. And knowing it's only about 10 pages helped to start following it. But being used to more information I felt like "Is that it" in the end. Could work better with linked in-depth article in the end.

Re: The Adulteration of Italian Olive Oil

#14

Post by maxerickson »

coldcode wrote: post #4

I reached the 10 article limit. Usually one can remove all the cookies but after a bunch of pages and a ton of JS executing it told me I had already ready 10 articles. So how are they doing this? Some kind of super cookie?

The page pushes a token into the url. Crop it where it makes sense.

The whole extra virgin olive oil thing is weird anyway, other vegetable oils have (probably) better health profiles and a more neutral flavor profile (people aren't just buying it for their salad).

Re: The Adulteration of Italian Olive Oil

#16

Post by mef »

Stratoscope wrote: post #11

What do I see when I get to this page? An olive skull and crossbones with EXTRA VIRGIN SUICIDE. Let me scroll down so I can see more! I hit the down arrow. Nothing happens. I try the Page Down key. Nothing happens. Ah, yes, I know, the keyboard doesn't always work on every website. I'll just use the scroll bar! Hmm... No scroll bar. Wait! Over on the right, there's a box with a triangle in it, pointing up. It almost…

You can also just click anywhere on the title image.

Re: The Adulteration of Italian Olive Oil

#17

Post by Stratoscope »

busterarm wrote: post #7

It's good for people to be aware of this but there's so much either ignored or misrepresented as to make this almost harmful. Fake olive oil peddlers aren't hurting themselves by peddling fake oil as the scam is as old as the olive oil industry itself. It's likely never going to go away and has been a mainstay of various criminal organizations (Sicilian mafia, etc) for longer than pretty much all of us have been aliv…

> It's so easy to get a decent quality olive oil once you know what to look for and it doesn't at all have to be from Italy. California Olive Ranch makes good stuff that is highly price competitive with the imported Italian stuff which is always more questionable anyway.

Thank you for the recommendation! I've been looking for some good olive oil and I seem to recall seeing them at the local stores. Definitely think I will go with local olive oil instead of the "Italian" stuff.

Re: The Adulteration of Italian Olive Oil

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Post by dsrguru »

coldcode wrote: post #4

I reached the 10 article limit. Usually one can remove all the cookies but after a bunch of pages and a ton of JS executing it told me I had already ready 10 articles. So how are they doing this? Some kind of super cookie?

Just google the URL (without the trailing GET parameters) and click on the first result. That always circumvents the NYT paywall.
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