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As much as I hate bloatware, this is another example of unwarranted regulation. Encourage more competition in the mobile carrier space and the free market will solve this better than any government can.
Why is this unwarranted? The free market is there but we still have bloatware.
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How much money do you reckon they saved on the laptop? How much is your time worth?
Are you implying that parent should be charging his or her parents for the work, or that he or she should cover the difference out of pocket?
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Why is this unwarranted? The free market is there but we still have bloatware.
Free market does not mean death to bloatware, quite the contrary. One of the reason why we have bloatware is because a significant amount of population does not really care about it and even if they do they prefer bloatware over an expensive laptop. The bloatware helps vendors reduced the prices of their devices by $10 - $20 making it more competitive.
I am also sure if you could give a customer the choice between a bloatware loaded phone and a clean phone (where he can install more games etc.) he would chose the one with no bloatware. He just has no idea there are ways to get rid of it. Some try over the known ways like the Apps preferences. But it's not working and they just don't know what to to about it.
This is where the government can help and if it does that why is this a problem?? You can still let people install apps afterwards that give them money or make whatever cheaper. But give them a choice!
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How much money do you reckon they saved on the laptop? How much is your time worth?
Are you implying that parent should be charging his or her parents for the work, or that he or she should cover the difference out of pocket?
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Road to hell, good intentions etc... Does it need to be a regulation? Silly regulations is what made South Korea entirely dependent on Internet Explorer.
The regulation you mention here is certainly outdated NOW, but when it was passed it was a very pragmatic decision. The anti-bloatware law is more than welcome, because competition keeps failing to reach the desired outcome. Regulations are exactly the right thing to do when competition and market fundamentally fails to reach what constitutes sanity, and converges to a local minimum. Needless to say, such regulations…
Has the market really failed in this regard? Can the Koreans not buy Android or iOS devices that are free from uninstallable bloatware? What about upcoming Ubuntu or Mozilla handsets, will they too be filled with uninstallable bloatware?
I understand that some people see this bloatware as a huge problem, but people should think very hard before calling out for regulations.
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The Moto X comes with unremovable bloatware if you are on Verizon.
That's if you get it though Verizon, its better to (byod), not buy on contract...
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How much money do you reckon they saved on the laptop? How much is your time worth?
Are you implying that parent should be charging his or her parents for the work, or that he or she should cover the difference out of pocket?
And I'd recommend to anyone doing tech support for parents that they carefully guide them into purchasing a decent, maintainable machine. It's not up to me to tell OP how that gets paid for. (I've ended up buying my dad a computer to avoid him picking up a 'bargain' machine from the supermarket, just because it'd be me that ends up fixing/reinstalling that crap and recovering data...)
As much as I hate bloatware, this is another example of unwarranted regulation. Encourage more competition in the mobile carrier space and the free market will solve this better than any government can.
This unwarranted government intervention is not good though I hate the bloatware. Everytime I visit my parents I end up spending half an hour removing browser toolbars, make your PC fast software. So I bought them a brand new Lenovo laptop just to find that there were 22 different kind of bloatware from DNS related stuff to browser toolbars to some weird webcam and what not software. No matter how much I hate them, t…
One minor technical difference: you don't need to actually flash a new OS to your device to remove Android bloatware, "/system/app mover" will do the trick. Of course this does not help if the manufacturer replaced core stock Android software with their own (Samsung), but at least in the case of Samsung I can't really complain on their replacements.
Doesn't the phone needs to be rooted for that to work? And rooting normally voids the warranty.