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Re: Emacs, naked

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jan 23, 2014, 11:10 PM UTC

__david__ wrote: post #82

sdegutis wrote: post #64

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There are serious problems trying to run it as a server on Mac OS X. Basically it's not a real option on this platofrm.

I run Emacs on Mac OS X as a server. What I don't do is "emacs --daemon". I launch Emacs and then "M-x server-start RET". This seems to avoid any weird issues. I use the "ec" script show here: http://emacsformacosx.com/tips

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Re: Emacs, naked

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Post by SimHacker » Thu, Jan 23, 2014, 11:48 PM UTC

bitwize wrote: post #142

emacs -nw :) It looks great when it combine it with amber-on-black Glass Tty in my xterm.

:TCTYP GLASS

Re: Emacs, naked

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Post by swah » Thu, Jan 23, 2014, 11:48 PM UTC

willismichael wrote: post #137

username223 wrote: post #15

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I wonder what the fad-editor in LightTable's place will be called in a few years?

What was it a few years ago? I'm going to guess that whatever the answer is, it didn't have anywhere near the extension capability of either Emacs or LightTable.

Only Textmate then ST2. Other editors like Scite, Notepad++, Ultraedit have huge amount of users but they aren't passionate about the subject...

Re: Emacs, naked

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Post by SimHacker » Thu, Jan 23, 2014, 11:49 PM UTC

throwaway_yy2Di wrote: post #28

If you reflect for a moment, obviously a minority of HN will be made alienated and uncomfortable by this sexualized humor. Do you really want this?

If THAT makes you uncomfortable, then obviously you haven't seen THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1sXuHnf_lo

Re: Emacs, naked

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Post by username223 » Thu, Jan 23, 2014, 11:53 PM UTC

willismichael wrote: post #137

username223 wrote: post #15

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I wonder what the fad-editor in LightTable's place will be called in a few years?

What was it a few years ago? I'm going to guess that whatever the answer is, it didn't have anywhere near the extension capability of either Emacs or LightTable.

A few years ago I would have gone with Sublime, and TextMate before that. I haven't tried extending LT, so I don't know how easy that is for a mere user. Both Emacs and Eclipse are very extensible, but only the former provides a smooth path to go from tweaking a few config variables and defining some macros, to writing serious extensions. I gather LT is mostly in ClojureScript (?), which suggests it's more like the former, but I would have to spend more time with it to say for sure. I played with it a bit, and it looks pretty, but it's not aimed at the projects I'm dealing with now.

Re: Emacs, naked

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Post by SimHacker » Thu, Jan 23, 2014, 11:55 PM UTC

SimHacker wrote: post #154

throwaway_yy2Di wrote: post #28

If you reflect for a moment, obviously a minority of HN will be made alienated and uncomfortable by this sexualized humor. Do you really want this?

If THAT makes you uncomfortable, then obviously you haven't seen THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1sXuHnf_lo

It's the ASCII art social commentary about the cultures surrounding various popular programming languages that I hope people will find the most offensive about that video. Well worth pausing and zooming in when he mentions your pet programming language.

Re: Emacs, naked

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Post by lucidguppy » Fri, Jan 24, 2014, 12:15 AM UTC

http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.html

Re: Emacs, naked

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Post by SimHacker » Fri, Jan 24, 2014, 12:29 AM UTC

kabdib wrote: post #73

I've found the latest revisions of Emacs to be incredibly ugly, and I have to turn off most of the crap (menus, etc.) to be comfortable. Stock Emacs also seems to want to open up a minibuffer when I've told it "please just edit this set of files". It's also got some idea that I want to to suspend the shell I launched it from (er, no, not ever). The argument I see on forums is: "Well, the right way to use Emacs is to…

UniPress Emacs (aka Gosling Emacs aka Soft Hoarder Emacs) had a VI emulation mode, that when you went :q, switched you back into a shell buffer that had its mode lines hidden, with all the keyboard bindings set so you couldn't tell you were in Emacs.

The only vi command I know is :q!

Re: Emacs, naked

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Post by theorique » Fri, Jan 24, 2014, 12:37 AM UTC

throwaway_yy2Di wrote: post #28

If you reflect for a moment, obviously a minority of HN will be made alienated and uncomfortable by this sexualized humor. Do you really want this?

It's a joke. For grown-up people with a sense of humor. This is the internet. If you don't like it, vote with your mouse and don't click on it.

Re: Emacs, naked

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Post by charlieflowers » Fri, Jan 24, 2014, 12:58 AM UTC

massysett wrote: post #148

fafner wrote: post #146

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> I grew frustrated trying to edit Haskell in Emacs; there are a bunch of half-baked modes out there. What's wrong with the normal haskell-mode? https://github.com/haskell/haskell-mode (interestingly another commentator here claims that Emacs' Haskell indentation is superior to VIM's https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7111521 ) > It's not great at doing version control [...] Have you tried magit? It's probably the…

> What's wrong with the normal haskell-mode? The indentation doesn't work well. It gets the indentation right maybe 80% of the time, but missing it 20% of the time is a big deal when you have to deal with the "tab-cycle." I spent so much time fiddling with indentation that I turned off auto indentation...and Emacs without mode-based auto indentation is much worse than Vim with manual indentation. I also had problems…

I see where you're coming from here. But my conclusion was that Emacs with Evil is just as good an editor as Vim. And as a bonus I get the complete customizability of Emacs.

So when you say "I will pick Vim since it's the better editor," what Vim features in particular (beyond modeful editing, which Evil provides) make you say that?