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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have the largest online advertising and marketing company in the world telling everyone that an ISP sucks... well, then guess what the ISP will do? Either nothing, or lose customers.

In the absense of meaningful competition, they'll likely just laugh. Still, it's good to have someone call them out.

Which suggests that it would be in Google's interest to start fostering some competition.

Hrm....

They've been playing with that in the fiber-to-home space. But running cable is expensive.

I'm familiar with some wireless Internet providers in a few markets. The cool thing is that they can poach high-value, high-concentration subscribers first. Since the model is based on transmitters, typically rooftop installations, and the like, if they can hop onto a building, run Cat-6 throughout, and plug it in, they've got the whole building, plus can run local connections throughout the neighborhood, and beam line-of-site to other tall points. It's a pretty cool gig.

Thinking maybe you set that up in a few major markets as a competition play.

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I didn't this happened elsewhere. Here in France it's a huge problem, providers even talk about youtube in their ads to get people's attention. Free is the most famous case in France because they constantly refuse to do their jobs thinking that it's google's job to do (I don't know who's right but I left them because of their problem with youtube). Few months ago (or was it a year?) they upgraded their modem to block Google advertisement by default. A pretty bold move.

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Telcos will have to invest in capacity where Google wants in order to get a good rating. Since Google is a de-facto monopoly, I think we'll see an Antitrust case soon.

How is youtube a monopoly? There are many free-to-upload/host videosistes.

Monopoly is defined by market share or market power. In the strict sense, it means "single provider", but a sufficiently large company can exercise an effective monopoly.

Having a monopoly is not of itself illegal. Using it in certain ways is.

Google are effectively a monopoly in search space. They're a massive presence in online advertising and video, as well as email.

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Is it me, or is this website subtly paying homage to Sen. Ted Stevens' famous "Series of Tubes" anti-net-neutrality speech.

People talked about Internet "pipes" for many years, but somehow Stevens was a moron for saying "tubes".

Stevens' whole quote:

"I just the other day got, an internet was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday and I just got it yesterday. Why? Because it got tangled up with all these things going on the internet commercially...

They want to deliver vast amounts of information over the internet. And again, the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck.

It's a series of tubes.

And if you don't understand those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and its going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material."

This doesn't strike me as someone who knows what they're talking about.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

People talked about Internet "pipes" for many years, but somehow Stevens was a moron for saying "tubes".

Stevens' whole quote: "I just the other day got, an internet was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday and I just got it yesterday. Why? Because it got tangled up with all these things going on the internet commercially... They want to deliver vast amounts of information over the internet. And again, the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes.…

> I just the other day got, an internet was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday and I just got it yesterday.

See, this is the funny part, not the "tubes". His staff sent him an internet? Yeah, I can see why that might take a while to deliver.

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Good. I swear youtube is throttled by Time Warner Cable for me. I stream Netflix, Hulu, etc and never have problems with them. I can confirm that I'm getting my speeds of 20MBit/s down, and yet almost every video on YouTube buffers. If I use youtube-dl to download the video, I can confirm that my actual connection speed is somewhere around 60KB/s. If I then use youtube-dl on my VPS with the same video, I get somewher…

AFAIK ISPs have special hardware from/for these big streaming services to efficiently handle the traffic. Every-so-often that peering/mirroring equipment cannot support the demand and they have to upgrade the capacity.

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Brighthouse (TWC subsidiary) throttles quite a few services these days, Youtube being the biggest one. The throttling is so intense 24 hours a day that Google's streaming algorithm (download a little, play a little, repeat) can't continue downloading after the first initial burst. I can easily break it by VPNing into Work or School. They very recently started throttling Netflix. I have a 90mbps down connection, and I…

Google is smart to Name and Shame the bad ISPs. I just think they should build this into the Youtube player, whenever the buffering spinner lags for more than 5 seconds have a a little message fade in that explains what the hold up is.
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