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Countries Where Windows Phone Outsells The iPhone

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Re: Countries Where Windows Phone Outsells The iPhone

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Post by steven2012 »

tsurantino wrote: post #29
r0h1n wrote: post #26

How long are Microsoft, and those who write about it, going to continue with the delusion that Windows Phone's competition is Apple and iOS, instead of Google and Android? I had spoken to Horace Dediu of Asymco in December for a story on what options Microsoft and Nokia had before them, and here are some of the relevant parts he told me (the article itself doesn't seem to have been put online at Forbes India, who I u…

This is likely to be contentious, but doesn't this effectively say that these phones are basically substitutable products? Are there not dimensions beyond price and volume still left to tap into the smartphone market?

If you've had an iPhone for 3 generations like me, there's no way you would switch to another vendor, simply because of all of the apps that you've paid for. If there were some way to get the Android version of an app if you bought the iPhone version, that might make it a lot easier to switch, but without that, I can't be bothered with spending money trying to recreate the same environment I currently have.

Re: Countries Where Windows Phone Outsells The iPhone

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Post by ps4fanboy »

sdegutis wrote: post #17
300bps wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After three iPhones (3G, 4 and 4s), my Lumia 928 is the best phone I've ever had.

Thanks for sharing. I'm getting tired of my iPhone's problems, so I'll probably be in the market when my contract expires. I'll look into that one.

ios7 was the last straw for me

Re: Countries Where Windows Phone Outsells The iPhone

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Post by aeturnum »

Touche wrote: post #43
cheald wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because as developers, you don't develop for a specific piece of mobile hardware, you develop for an OS. If Windows Phone is gaining ground in markets you care about, you'd best care about it, regardless of the specific hardware being talked about. We're comparing ecosystems here, not hardware. We can compare "Windows Phone Phones vs iOS phones" if that makes you feel more comfortable.

> Because as developers, you don't develop for a specific piece of mobile hardware, you develop for an OS. Speak for yourself, I develop for the web.

Well, do you test on mobile IE? Should you?

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Post by ladzoppelin »

melling wrote: post #47
hawkharris wrote: post #40

I'm working on a project for a large company that recently made Windows Phone 8 its corporate standard. I have to say that I've been impressed with the phone since I started using one for development. The display, camera and interfaces feel smooth and fun to use. It's easy to bash Microsoft and dismiss its products altogether, but it's important to give them a shot, if only to avoid the mistake of limiting ourselves…

Why? We've pretty much limited ourselves to Apple and Microsoft on the desktop for almost 2 decades. In fact, it has been pretty much limited to Microsoft. They still have about 90% desktop market share, and almost 100% of the corporate desktop. Microsoft illegally killed off most desktop competition when they forced hardware vendors to pay for DOS on every PC they shipped, regardless of which OS they shipped. Person…

"Personally, I think we're better off with Google taking the place of Microsoft in the mobile space". Wow it just felt like 2008 for a second. Google's image is so different now. Sad really.

Re: Countries Where Windows Phone Outsells The iPhone

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Post by Pelayo »

Here in Chile, I'm not sure where those phones are. You see iPhone and Android everywhere.

My best guess would be people upgrading from a feature phone to a smartphone for the first time. They might buy a really low end Windows phone because of Nokia (they dominated the market for ages) but I have never seen a high end one here in the wild.

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Post by qwerta »

r0h1n wrote: post #26

How long are Microsoft, and those who write about it, going to continue with the delusion that Windows Phone's competition is Apple and iOS, instead of Google and Android? I had spoken to Horace Dediu of Asymco in December for a story on what options Microsoft and Nokia had before them, and here are some of the relevant parts he told me (the article itself doesn't seem to have been put online at Forbes India, who I u…

> How long are Microsoft, and those who write about it, going to continue with the delusion that Windows Phone's competition is Apple and iOS, instead of Google and Android?

They compete with both. Iphone does not sell because it sucks outside of US. It is locked down severely restricted platform. It does not even have USB Mass Storage!

Re: Countries Where Windows Phone Outsells The iPhone

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Post by sdegutis »

ps4fanboy wrote: post #52
sdegutis wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for sharing. I'm getting tired of my iPhone's problems, so I'll probably be in the market when my contract expires. I'll look into that one.

ios7 was the last straw for me

I actually really liked iOS 7 compared to iOS 6. But it's still not enough to salvage the OS for me.

Re: Countries Where Windows Phone Outsells The iPhone

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Post by trollingyou »

fosk wrote: post #45
kumarm wrote: post #4

>> Italy and Finland aside, Windows Phone is primarily growing is poorer nations where the iPhone is prohibitively expensive The markets that Windows outsell iPhone are the markets where iPhone has less than 10% market share and where people need cheaper phones. These are not the markets that are attractive to developers (Revenue/user is much lower than developed countries) and hence Windows will not see developer mi…

I understand Finland (home of Nokia), but why Windows Phones are gaining market share in Italy?

apple charges 30% more for anything they sell in italy.
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