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HP brings Windows 7 back 'due to popular demand' as buyers shun Windows 8

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Re: HP brings Windows 7 back 'due to popular demand' as buyers shun Windows 8

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Counterpoint: "HP Bringing Back Windows 7 PCs? Not so fast..."[1]. TL;DR: this is a marketing tactic, and HP is actually offering fewer systems with Windows 7 than it was last year. [1] http://www.zdnet.com/hp-bringing-back-windows-7-pcs-not-so-f...

But in Microsoft's vision of 2014, the number of systems being offered with Windows 7 should be zero.

Re: HP brings Windows 7 back 'due to popular demand' as buyers shun Windows 8

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Windows 8 is noticeably faster, has nice improvements all around and it's probably the first Windows that looks aesthetic. People are afraid of change, simple as that.

While Windows 8 might not be as bad as some people would like you to think, it's definitely a schizophrenic monster when it comes to the jarring Metro/Aero divide. How you can call that "aesthetic" is beyond me.

The only thing I've been happy with since the move from Windows 7 has been the new Task Manager. Every other change has been met with a "why did that need to be changed?".

Re: HP brings Windows 7 back 'due to popular demand' as buyers shun Windows 8

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Can't "Back by popular demand" refer to the $150 discount on old systems instead of Windows 7 itself? I'm leaning that direction since I associate snowmen with December holidays. Look at the ad itself: http://www.hp.com/country/us/en/hho/welcome.html

That is really standard HP discount. I do not remember ever going to HP website and not receiving $100-$450 discount for something.

Re: HP brings Windows 7 back 'due to popular demand' as buyers shun Windows 8

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post #4

Windows 8 is noticeably faster, has nice improvements all around and it's probably the first Windows that looks aesthetic. People are afraid of change, simple as that.

Windows 8 is the most unusable collection of software I have ever had the misfortune of fighting. It is the worst experience I have ever had with an operating system, coming from experience with dos, windows 3.1-95-xp-vista-7, ubuntu, and arch. The built in apps feel like MVPs. The interactions are unintuitive, and many things that should "just work" smack you in the face time and time again. the whole thing feels li…

I've been using Windows 8 on my desktop PC for some time now (primarily used for gaming and entertainment, not development) and for my purposes it's a clear upgrade over 7. Yes, the Metro apps are terrible but you don't ever need to use them. I spend almost all of my time in the desktop, and the few times I need to use the new Start interface, the workflow is exactly the same as Win7 (press Windows key, start typing program name, hit Enter).

Re: HP brings Windows 7 back 'due to popular demand' as buyers shun Windows 8

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post #4

Windows 8 is noticeably faster, has nice improvements all around and it's probably the first Windows that looks aesthetic. People are afraid of change, simple as that.

>"People are afraid of change, simple as that."

I'd counter that with "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

I spent a few days with Win 8 and I've never seen a more unintuitive UI experience in my entire life. The frustration of having to re-learn simple computing tasks far outweighs any aesthetic improvements IMO.

Re: HP brings Windows 7 back 'due to popular demand' as buyers shun Windows 8

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post #14
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows 8 is the most unusable collection of software I have ever had the misfortune of fighting. It is the worst experience I have ever had with an operating system, coming from experience with dos, windows 3.1-95-xp-vista-7, ubuntu, and arch. The built in apps feel like MVPs. The interactions are unintuitive, and many things that should "just work" smack you in the face time and time again. the whole thing feels li…

I've been using Windows 8 on my desktop PC for some time now (primarily used for gaming and entertainment, not development) and for my purposes it's a clear upgrade over 7. Yes, the Metro apps are terrible but you don't ever need to use them. I spend almost all of my time in the desktop, and the few times I need to use the new Start interface, the workflow is exactly the same as Win7 (press Windows key, start typing…

This sounds like the same, unconvincing argument I always hear about Windows 8.

"It's a bit faster, there are some other minor obscure improvements, and if you just ignore all of the crappy new stuff it's not a big deal!"

If boot times are a big issue for you, then I get it. For me, they aren't, so I'm inclined to pass on the update. Perhaps it would work great with a Windows Phone or Surface (I'm tempted to try those at some point, so if anybody would like to share their experiences with theirs...), but it doesn't seem like it was designed for a desktop. So why should I put it on my desktop?

Re: HP brings Windows 7 back 'due to popular demand' as buyers shun Windows 8

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post #4

Windows 8 is noticeably faster, has nice improvements all around and it's probably the first Windows that looks aesthetic. People are afraid of change, simple as that.

In the consumer's mind, not all change is good change. New Coke wasn't good[0]. New Tropicana orange juice packaging wasn't good[1]. New GAP logo wasn't good[2]. Change for change's sake isn't always good. Microsoft took something that wasn't broken and didn't fix it. I blame Microsoft trying to be everything to everyone - that which is good for a touchscreen isn't necessarily good for a desktop/laptop without, and their desire (and hubris) to have a single UI amongst everything is biting them in the consumer market.

0. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Coke#Reversal

1. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/23/business/media/23adcol.htm...

2. http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2010/10/new-gap-logo-...

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