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HP brings Windows 7 back 'due to popular demand' as buyers shun Windows 8

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Re: HP brings Windows 7 back 'due to popular demand' as buyers shun Windows 8

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Post by TrainedMonkey »

I really do not understand why we must have one size fits all operating system in the first place. Some things work better for mobile (metro, ios, android), and some work better for desktop/laptop Windows, OS X, Linux.

Why must we try to make them the same? I would argue a set of well defined junction points like Apple did with airplay in order to share content between mobile and desktop segments is a way more elegant solution.

Re: HP brings Windows 7 back 'due to popular demand' as buyers shun Windows 8

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Post by anotherbadlogin »

Because the Windows 8 UI is so bad that even consumers won't accept it.

Hidden UI = no UI at all. This peek-a-boo shit has to stop.

And "converging" mobile and desktop OSes is exactly backward. What the ascendancy of tablets has shown us is that many people don't need computers. So when someone DOES take the trouble to fire up a computer, it stands to reason that he needs A COMPUTER. That means a real OS, file system, pointing device, and other affordances that provide the precision and power needed for computer-based tasks.

Re: HP brings Windows 7 back 'due to popular demand' as buyers shun Windows 8

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Post by Innercode »

TrainedMonkey wrote: post #2

I really do not understand why we must have one size fits all operating system in the first place. Some things work better for mobile (metro, ios, android), and some work better for desktop/laptop Windows, OS X, Linux. Why must we try to make them the same? I would argue a set of well defined junction points like Apple did with airplay in order to share content between mobile and desktop segments is a way more elegan…

They could have a one sized fits all operating system, however they need to tailor the interface to each type of device. Using a mouse on a "touch" interface is a terrible experience, same as using touch in a mouse environment. I have not tried Windows 8 update, however first impressions have done the damage to Windows 8 already.

Re: HP brings Windows 7 back 'due to popular demand' as buyers shun Windows 8

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Post by kogir »

Can't "Back by popular demand" refer to the $150 discount on old systems instead of Windows 7 itself? I'm leaning that direction since I associate snowmen with December holidays.

Look at the ad itself: http://www.hp.com/country/us/en/hho/welcome.html

Re: HP brings Windows 7 back 'due to popular demand' as buyers shun Windows 8

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Post by robertfw »

adamors wrote: post #4

Windows 8 is noticeably faster, has nice improvements all around and it's probably the first Windows that looks aesthetic. People are afraid of change, simple as that.

Windows 8 is the most unusable collection of software I have ever had the misfortune of fighting. It is the worst experience I have ever had with an operating system, coming from experience with dos, windows 3.1-95-xp-vista-7, ubuntu, and arch.

The built in apps feel like MVPs. The interactions are unintuitive, and many things that should "just work" smack you in the face time and time again.

the whole thing feels like it's been slapped together without any thought for actual usability, and with zero polish.

edit: i should note that I have not yet tried the 8.1 update

Re: HP brings Windows 7 back 'due to popular demand' as buyers shun Windows 8

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Post by Maakuth »

kvb wrote: post #5

Counterpoint: "HP Bringing Back Windows 7 PCs? Not so fast..."[1]. TL;DR: this is a marketing tactic, and HP is actually offering fewer systems with Windows 7 than it was last year. [1] http://www.zdnet.com/hp-bringing-back-windows-7-pcs-not-so-f...

Isn't it only natural that they sold a lot of Windows 7 PCs last year, as Windows 8 was only recently released?
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