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Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The best ways for artists to earn money are not tours and merchandise. I don't know why that assertion keeps getting passed around as fact. No one ever seems to post data supporting it. For your basic indie musician tour (plus merchandise), you're doing really well if you are making enough money to pay for the food and lodging costs of the tour.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100712/23482610186.shtml Here you go the numbers. The High point is your average signed artist gets $23 out of $1000 in sales or 2.3%.

I missed that the parent thread was limited to RIAA signed artists, and reacted to the blanket statement of the parent implying it was a truth for all artists (including unsigned and indie).

Yes, it is true that big-label acts made most of their money from touring and merchandise. My point is that that fact does not translate to smaller-time indie artists.

A lot of people tend to improperly point to the RIAA practices (of capturing most of the licensing/royalty pie), and use it to make the case that indie musicians should also not expect any revenue from their product and instead focus on touring and merchandise. It's a self-serving argument from those that are in favor of "free" streaming music. In other words, there's a difference between claiming that RIAA has historically captured most of that pie, and claiming that the pie doesn't exist.

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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I like the site. Can anyone give a technical synopsis of how this has been made, perhaps the time frame and complexity of an app like this? I'm assuming Kim hasn't coded this himself, anyone know if he outsourced to a company?

The Baboom developers page links to 2 open-source projects. One of the web pages, for Mout (https://github.com/mout/mout), is © linking to http://www.millermedeiros.com/ so presumably he's one of the devs.

Satazor is listed as a dev on Mout and also on the other OS project on the Baboom site, Bower (http://bower.io/).

If you really want to know ... http://instagram.com/p/iGuGNvLpwK shows pics none of which are Kimdotcom AFAICT.

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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I have an iTunes library of a million bajillion tracks, a habit I picked up back in the 00s when downloading an entire album (or every album!) of an artist you liked was a novel thing and turned everyone into the digital equivalent of hoarders. And guess what? I pretty much listen to none of it anymore. My daily music dose now comes from Soundcloud, where active artists are putting up new tracks / mixes and giving th…

I'm curious - do you ever use genius to 'rediscover' music from your old collection, or is it just plain better to have a broader range available?

I personally do a little of both - using either my own collection, or pandora and now iTunes Radio. I find myself using iTunes Radio more and more vs my own collection.

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Kim Dotcom is an evil genius and a remarkable marketing guy. During his whole career no doubts he made a fortune out of other people work BUT, still, he can't be considered responsible for it because - in fact - he had MILLIONS of users who actually used the pirated content megaupload made available (and i dare anyone here to throw the first stone if they never used megaupload). So, while i'm not yet sure i like the…

Kimble is a fraud and an asshole. The only things he's good at are marketing and scamming. Just take a look at his history- insider trading, selling userdata from a BBS he ran to a lawyer, scamming the german telcos... the list is quite long. He's a good marketer, but one of the worst people I've read about. There's a file of his quotes (from the CCC mailing list) circulating, if you know german you should try readin…

"He's a good marketer, but one of the worst people I've read about."

Go and read about Albert Fish. Might moderate your claims about this guy a bit...

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Fuck Kim Dotcom. He's a scumbag piece of shit who deserves to rot in prison. He plots and schemes way to put hundreds of millions of dollars into his pocket off of the works of others. Anyone who supports him should be ashamed of themselves.

A troll just got 50 internet points on HN. Congratulations.

If it makes you feel better I only got 12 imaginary internet points. I've also been quite consistent in my rallying against Dotcom. It's taking time but most people are coming around to realizing that Dotcom is a sleazy scumbag not worth of praise or support.

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Are you talking about AirBnb and their Craigslist scamming? What? I don't even know if Kimble and AirBnB are connected... >Meanwhile venture backed start-ups are doing God's work, right?! If you do a Ctrl+F "venture" I'm sure you wont find any occurences in my post.

I believe he's comparing the less than above board things dotcom has done to the sidestepping of the law that AirBNB actively endorses. Basically saying that HN is all about companies like AirBNB because they hatched here while they aren't that much better when it comes to working within the law and playing by the rules. I could be mistaken though, correct me if I'm wrong yapcguy. Not saying I fully agree just trying…

You are 100% correct.

I should have used the /sarcasm tag so zwdr didn't take me so literally.

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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post #51

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"voluntarily"

Yes, voluntarily. People would kill to get these ostensibly terrible recording ontracts. Because, statistically speaking, the alternatives for artists are to 1) starve to make their music or 2) get another job. Playing live does not make real money to any but the small fraction who are already famous, and guess how they got there in the first place!

You are totally right and I couldn't agree more with you. The thing is that the record companies have created an environment where almost the only way to make a living is signing "voluntarily" with them.

Nowadays a musician is not so different from a software developer. They can work solo or in groups, they can distribute their songs freely or decide to charge for them. But the software developing world and the music world are two completely different worlds when you look at the business model. So yeah, you can voluntarily sell your software to a giant like Google or Microsoft, but I'm not sure that signing for Virgin or Warner is such a voluntary act.

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