I don't see where Apple gets off charging more for their computers. They're garbage. That reminds me of the youtube video of the guy flipping out because his Apple crashed again. If one has the choice between a PC and a Mac with similar hardware features, and pays the extra money for the Mac, they freaking deserve it. And saying you buy the Mac because OS X is better? Are you freakin' kidding me? That's the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. Windows 95 was better than Mac OS X. The commercials are not only bad for slander, they're completely false. I like the one where Linux comes in and joins the conversation, and then proceeds to beat the shit out of the Mac. Now that commercial seems more fitting. Apple sucks.
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which part do you doubt? Its certainly true that PC laptops are much less expensive that apple laptops (upon which this comment is being written). And its definitely true that $450 is not an unrealistic price to spend. As for which is 'faster' thats so nebulous that it would require further clarification to establish. PC's are faster for somethings, and Mac's for others. The main reason (for me) to buy a Mac is that…
Also, I value the build. Those cheap PC laptops don't have a unibody aluminum case or magsafe, and frankly, I don't trust their component choices, or time to research it. I can get full instructions to take apart any Mac at ifixit.com, but for a PC, it's extremely hard to get the service manual.
You just nailed it on the head. The only other PC manufacturer with decent build is Lenovo with the ThinkPads - and those will run you a pretty penny also (well, $1100+ for a decent setup anyway)
Quality stuff costs money, hardly a surprise, but what is surprising is how many people believe there is a free lunch to be had.
You would not believe the number of people I've talked to who insist that BMWs have the same parts as a Toyota, and that it's all just marketing...
Re: Apple Wanted Microsoft Ads Yanked
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
which part do you doubt? Its certainly true that PC laptops are much less expensive that apple laptops (upon which this comment is being written). And its definitely true that $450 is not an unrealistic price to spend. As for which is 'faster' thats so nebulous that it would require further clarification to establish. PC's are faster for somethings, and Mac's for others. The main reason (for me) to buy a Mac is that…
Also, I value the build. Those cheap PC laptops don't have a unibody aluminum case or magsafe, and frankly, I don't trust their component choices, or time to research it. I can get full instructions to take apart any Mac at ifixit.com, but for a PC, it's extremely hard to get the service manual.
I've upgraded about 15 different Dell, HP and IBM laptops in the last 6 months; finding the service manuals is trivial.
I don't disagree about the build quality though; the unibody MacBooks are a sight to behold.
Re: Apple Wanted Microsoft Ads Yanked
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
which part do you doubt? Its certainly true that PC laptops are much less expensive that apple laptops (upon which this comment is being written). And its definitely true that $450 is not an unrealistic price to spend. As for which is 'faster' thats so nebulous that it would require further clarification to establish. PC's are faster for somethings, and Mac's for others. The main reason (for me) to buy a Mac is that…
To me, I'd question the 'full suite' of Office that was supposedly included. Even when building through Dell, and packing in the OEM version, I'm pretty sure that alone adds $3-400 to the price. That said, Office doesn't ship with Macs. I'm pretty sure that Macs don't even ship with the 30- or 60-day evaluation version these days.
The Pro line ships with a trial version of MS Office and Apple iWork. It also includes the Apple iLife suite and several other good "Pro" apps by Omni.
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#15I think the issue here is that Apple is pissed that the ads claim the actors are real people. They're paid actors pretending to be consumers -- and that's false advertising. (Or misleading to be lenient)
If the actor is a real person (and not an actor) why is he in Night of The Museum 2 and Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist?
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#16"apple is freakin stupid. i bought a mid line HP laptop about 5 months ago for $450 on sale at best buy (with vista and the full office suite). it's faster and has power than the macbook, which is about $1200." Somehow I doubt that...
which part do you doubt? Its certainly true that PC laptops are much less expensive that apple laptops (upon which this comment is being written). And its definitely true that $450 is not an unrealistic price to spend. As for which is 'faster' thats so nebulous that it would require further clarification to establish. PC's are faster for somethings, and Mac's for others. The main reason (for me) to buy a Mac is that…
For my part? I doubt the part that's "so nebulous that it would require further clarification to establish".
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#17I don't see where Apple gets off charging more for their computers. They're garbage. That reminds me of the youtube video of the guy flipping out because his Apple crashed again. If one has the choice between a PC and a Mac with similar hardware features, and pays the extra money for the Mac, they freaking deserve it. And saying you buy the Mac because OS X is better? Are you freakin' kidding me? That's the most ridi…
Care to give us any data points to back up your broad unsubstantiated claims? They're certainly at odds with my own experience.
Re: Apple Wanted Microsoft Ads Yanked
#18It's not surprising. Most of Microsoft's attempts at advertising make them look stupid. The Gates/Seinfeld ads? They just made the company look aimless. They made the company look like they didn't know what people wanted or why Apple was doing well. These new "laptop hunter" ads hit Apple where it hurts. While one can argue that Apple's computers don't cost more than an identically spec'd PC, the problem is that very…
I agree with most of your points except one: I recently switched back to PC, and am amazed at the hardware i can get for the price. I can get a superior PC (operating system preference aside) for FAR less than a MAC.
But, that being said, I am so used to OSX that I prefer it over windows XP at the moment. But I have recently enjoyed the simple breadth of things I have been missing out on (gaming and game design, add-ons and free apps, etc).
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#19From the very beginning of GUIs, all the way up to now, Microsoft's attempts at copying Apple's lead have just ended up creating cargo-cult operating systems. Yes, $450 sounds like a better price than $1200, and yes, they both look pretty with their eye candy. But what you are getting is fundamentally different; it is cargo-cult design. With a Mac, you get stuff done. With a PC, you get less stuff done, as you run into all the issues that come up with cargo-cult technology.
So... back to the ad. I read the yanking request was over claims about pricing, which were incorrect claims since Apple's pricing had changed. It wasn't about anything like Apple trying to censor Microsoft, as some hyperventillating commenters on the net have said.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
which part do you doubt? Its certainly true that PC laptops are much less expensive that apple laptops (upon which this comment is being written). And its definitely true that $450 is not an unrealistic price to spend. As for which is 'faster' thats so nebulous that it would require further clarification to establish. PC's are faster for somethings, and Mac's for others. The main reason (for me) to buy a Mac is that…
Also, I value the build. Those cheap PC laptops don't have a unibody aluminum case or magsafe, and frankly, I don't trust their component choices, or time to research it. I can get full instructions to take apart any Mac at ifixit.com, but for a PC, it's extremely hard to get the service manual.
OK - but how often do you plan on dropping your laptop? I fixed/maintained hardware for many years, so while I think you are overstating the case a bit I can agree with your basic point.
But if I, say, buy a craptop for $750 that does 90% of what I want from a $1500 Macbook, well I have $750 left over that I can use. I take a 10% productivity hit, but if I can get more than a 10% ROI on my cash (perhaps by buying a better software package or whatever) then I am ahead of the game, at least until such time as my craptop gets damaged and needs replacement.
And I have to say that the failure rates for PC laptops are not as bad as you (appear to) think.