I forwarded the link to a friend who works in the admissions office at Yale. Can't promise anything but she said she'd be asking some questions.
The Great Firewall of Yale
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#112"They had contacted us warning that we were using copyrighted data" last I understood you can't copyright data or facts [in the US]. You can own copyright to a particular published format though. One can't copy and publish a phone book verbatim but you can certainly scrap a phone book for its data/facts and publish them in a different format.
Now I'm not sure if this is a slam dunk. My friend works developing a fantasy sports startup, he's talked about all kind of legal grey areas around the legality of where you get those stats. He didn't go into specifics though.
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#113I'm surprised that we haven't DDOS them yet, lol.
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
> This is not news. If you're numb to it, then it's imperative that it is news. Imagine when the headlines read "Millions killed in Nazi camps" and people said "This is not news."
Godwin's Law
Ha, I had to Google that.
Let me use one of the examples provided by Crito below.
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#115If I'm paying $58,000 to attend an institution (rather, if my family is sacrificing $58,000 for me to attend an institution...or,worse yet, if I am taking out $58,000 worth of student loans per year), I should be able to use a course listing service so that I can tailor my academic experience however I chose. THAT is how we open this debate, not with comments about who the proper copyright holder is or whether or not…
No, if you choose to go to Yale and pay 58k/yr then you get the product they give you. It's up to them to design the product (your Yale education). It might lead to unhappy customers, but I don't see how entitlement can be argued.
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#116It would have been really cool if the developers of this (really nice, AFAICT) site moved it to (or also made it available via) a Tor hidden service. The students would regain access to their data (I realize that it has now been e-mailed to them) and it would be a great example of exactly how Tor can help "bypass" censorship.
And their visitors would go from 2,000 to 2 overnight.
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#117Wow. This really makes me appreciate what we had at my college. For nearly a decade now, the OFFICIAL portal for the university that lets students and teachers manage courses and assignments (submissions included), has been the one that was originally developed, and still managed by students. We have a webmasters club for that whose responsibility it is keep it up and running and add features to it as they see fit. The university has been nothing but supportive of this, including assigning it an yearly budget for hosting and other expenditures.
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#118GFW don't show any "blocked" message, it just "reset" the connection...
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#119Frankly, if colleges receive public funds, they shouldn't be allowed to claim "copyright" on something like timetable information, in my opinion. Actual intellectual property, maybe, but this? Not a time table. That's just silly.
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
If they were only blocking based on IP address then students wouldn't be able to ping the server. So they're blocking on at least the TCP layer. ... not that that constitutes DPI either.
You don't think they probably force their students through a HTTP Proxy (which will have a different address) than the one a ping ends up originating from? I'm with the parent, I doubt they're doing DPI here.
HTTP Proxys can be transparent: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_server#Transparent_proxy
The way to get around transparent proxies is to use HTTPS btw.