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Re: Google to Acquire Nest

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Post by ericcumbee »

vasilipupkin wrote: post #53
MrZongle2 wrote: post #11

Am I the only one who thought "well, good for the Nest guys" followed by "too bad, it looked like a good product"?

yeah, the last thing I need is my Nest thermostat and my Nest smoke alarm sending data about my house to Google / NSA

from http://techcrunch.com/2014/01/13/google-just-bought-connecte...

Will Nest customer data be shared with Google?

Our privacy policy clearly limits the use of customer information to providing and improving Nest’s products and services. We’ve always taken privacy seriously and this will not change. ----- is it just me or is that a non denial?

Re: Google to Acquire Nest

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Post by sliverstorm »

badclient wrote: post #51
molecule wrote: post #37

Coming Soon: Google+ Integration w/ Your Nest Thermostat

No heat for you if you don't upload a profile pic. That will drive up engagement I bet.

I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that. Only users who use their real name on G+ are allowed to change the temperature

Re: Google to Acquire Nest

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Post by psbp »

AshleysBrain wrote: post #77
psbp wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, motorola products have completely gone down the toilet after that acquisition. They were so great before with fast updates and a wonderful skin of android, and now they're either non-innovative or way too overpriced for the value.

Like the Moto G?

Exactly a phone with an S4 pro for $180?!?! A complete rip-off I tell you.

Re: Google to Acquire Nest

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Post by taylorwc »

Fasebook wrote: post #68
MrZongle2 wrote: post #11

Am I the only one who thought "well, good for the Nest guys" followed by "too bad, it looked like a good product"?

Really? $200 for a predictive thermostat, with a lame excuse to stream energy usage data and proximity data (Nest detects humans) out of your home? Id rather pay $99 to tell health insurance companies how often I exercise, live. You could get the same benefit from a device for $30 of electronics. It's an overpriced gimmick to justify another selling off of your personal data forever in exchange for nothing but some m…

Does that mean you place no value on aesthetics or industrial design of a beautiful device? Don't get me wrong, I agree that it's overpriced, but I do at least place some value on a well-made device.

Re: Google to Acquire Nest

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Post by VLM »

badclient wrote: post #38

Someone at google is thinking of ways to use Google Plus to fuck up Nest.

Do you use more or less energy than your friends in your circles? Gamification?

For a couple decades demand shedding devices have been offered for A/C and electric water heaters where you get a microscopic credit to your bill and the electric co can use a stereotypically totally rube goldberg contraption (remember, these systems have been around for decades) to remotely shed some peak load for a couple hours at a time. I could see something like $5 credit on google play or free google music streaming if you sign up for a load shedding program that uses the nest. And occasionally your thermostat drops by 5 degrees for a couple hours even when it "shouldn't".

Re: Google to Acquire Nest

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Post by corresation »

VLM wrote: post #58
mikegreen wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do they have anything else other than the thermostat and smoke detector?

They monitor for presence. Combine the phone's attempt at geolocation with motion detectors or whatever to make even finer grained geolocation. So if your phone geolocates to the frozen north, and the thermostat indicates the furnace is working extra hard, expect to see warm vacation destination ads in your desktop web browser at work, or something like that.

Do you think Google doesn't already know who is in the "frozen North"? How could knowing how long your furnace runs add any value, at all, for you as an advertising target, if we must always go with that utterly simplistic analysis?

Further people keep repeatedly claiming that the Nest device has some sort of presence detection. To my knowledge it has no such thing -- it simply allows you to program it by daily overrides instead of actively turning it on or off. Though of course many people eventually just end up setting it to a static temperature.

There is no amazing in-house intelligence gathering platform here.

Re: Google to Acquire Nest

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Post by MrZongle2 »

ericcumbee wrote: post #101
vasilipupkin wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yeah, the last thing I need is my Nest thermostat and my Nest smoke alarm sending data about my house to Google / NSA

from http://techcrunch.com/2014/01/13/google-just-bought-connecte... Will Nest customer data be shared with Google? Our privacy policy clearly limits the use of customer information to providing and improving Nest’s products and services. We’ve always taken privacy seriously and this will not change. ----- is it just me or is that a non denial?

It just means that the privacy policy will be revised.
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