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Re: Female Founders

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Post by skylan_q »

mortyseinfeld wrote: post #429

Once again we have leftists commenting on how dividing people into groups is a good thing because of historical racism, segregation, etc.. It's like 1984 newspeak and clear that's it's a sick ideology.

It's never been about equality of opportunity. It's always been about equality of outcome which in itself is a very un-capitalist view.

I understand: Maybe we can give women a shot at this and see if they can do really well. It might work, or it might not. It's a market that's un-tapped and we might end up with great results. Let's try this out.

I don't understand: More women need to do this because.

Re: Female Founders

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Post by skylan_q »

znowi wrote: post #413

I'm sorry, but this is a ridiculous continuation of a ridiculous drama that came out of a ridiculous out of context treatment. We've become overly sensitive and prone to offense over trivial matters. Accusation of sexism or racism or what else is almost on par with being a terrorist now and all it takes is an unfortunately put word or two. The accused party is commonly terrified, as if he committed the worst possible…

This article shouldn't have been? I think the one previous to this one was going to far. ("What I didn't say") It's not PG's fault people lie and have reading comprehension problems. By writing even more on this he's just giving more to feed SJW trolls.

Re: Female Founders

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Post by Helianthus »

johngalt wrote: post #367
Helianthus wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In other words, this is a posture piece: it's about your reputation, and only about the issue at hand insomuch as it is important to give that issue its due. I mean that ('posture piece') as neutrally, perhaps, as it is possible to mean it. >come away with the idea that YC is somehow sexist. And you can say, with a straight face, that YC is not sexist? That it's just the tech environment, and you're on the 'right sid…

i.e. Not only is pg a witch but also a liar for not admitting it! Look we get it. You enjoy being some moral arbiter that has impossible standards so you can act like your better than everyone while accomplishing nothing.

Who's the bigger unaccomplished arbiter, the arbiter, or the arbiter arbitrating unaccomplished arbiters?

:D

Re: Female Founders

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Post by coldtea »

prayag wrote: post #340
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aside: I've looked at that BlackGirlsCode link a bit more and I'm quite shocked that such segregation is encouraged, lauded even. Now there's some argument to support educating the sexes separately but if you're an asian girl living in Brooklyn (say) you can't go? Just because you're Asian ... ??? Really? What if you're half-Asian+half-African, how about your skins black but you're South American. Damn. Do people rea…

The problem is that you don't understand what racism is. Racism isn't just treating someone differently because she belongs to a different race. Racism has more to do with power dynamics than with color of a person's skin. For example, just because a college has different standards of admission for different races to promote diversity is not racism but to give preferential treatment to the group of people who have mo…

>For example, just because a college has different standards of admission for different races to promote diversity is not racism but to give preferential treatment to the group of people who have more social and economic power. That's racism.

So, building women founders, is, as is building male founders, a way to create a few more people with "social and economic power" to rule over the rest of us.

Re: Female Founders

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Post by _xhok »

One thing that happens in American public schools is that because they're so worried about catching the average student up, exceptional students feel bored. Male here; question for females: is something similar happening now? That is, is it the case that so many programs are catered to stereotypically feminine girls that girls who just want to, independent of their gender, learn how to code, are feeling unaccounted for?

Re: Female Founders

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Post by coldtea »

wpietri wrote: post #401
reinhardt wrote: post #333

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That's why we can't have nice things. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Such bullying incidents may look like PR victories for the PC crowd in terms of shaping public opinion. What they miss though is that even when they don't backfire loudly (see "donglegate"), they turn off moderate people who are otherwise neutral or sympathetic to reasonable calls for equal opportunities. By trying to guilt trip the whole wh…

Yes, if only MLK and the civil rights marchers had been quieter and more obedient, I'm sure racism would be less of a problem today.

Actually MLK acted perfectly (if a little too quiet at times, though he was portrayed much more obedient that how dynamic he was).

The problem is with priviliged upper middle class white PC police, that are nothing like MLK -- and their "rage" is all show off and conforming to the social norms of their peer group.

Re: Female Founders

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Post by nicklovescode »

sanj wrote: post #433

Most YC companies have at least two founders. Many have three. PG's language here: In the current YC batch, 16 out of 68 companies, or 24%, have female founders. is ambiguous. If we assume for the moment that the average YC company has 2.5 founders, this statement could vary between the 24% number quoted (when all of the cofounders are women) and 9% (where only one of the cofounders is a woman). It'd be helpful to ha…

It sounds to me like the latter(9%) but does that matter much? The point seems to be that it is roughly twice their calculated industry average, which presumably uses the same metrics.

Re: Female Founders

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Post by darklrd »

Zikes wrote: post #146

Judging by the comments on this article, it would appear that once you've been labeled a sexist it is downright impossible to dispel. I'm not sure what people expect, exactly. Is pg supposed to give up all his worldly goals and possessions and live as some sort of equality monk? Should he know of and contribute to every one of the many groups and organizations involved in gender equality? And what exactly is wrong wi…

So true, in the end, it's not pg's fault if there is sexism and racism in the tech industry. They are doing their bit to improve the situation. Others should also try and do the same.

Re: Female Founders

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Post by nl »

angersock wrote: post #149
Helianthus wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In other words, this is a posture piece: it's about your reputation, and only about the issue at hand insomuch as it is important to give that issue its due. I mean that ('posture piece') as neutrally, perhaps, as it is possible to mean it. >come away with the idea that YC is somehow sexist. And you can say, with a straight face, that YC is not sexist? That it's just the tech environment, and you're on the 'right sid…

What are you driving at? Have some guts and stop beating about the bush.

Apparently Helianthus think's PG should have both said nothing at all (eg, Because by engaging the toxic, he's cementing his role in the toxic.) and said something radical (the section of moderate feminists that are inherently sympathetic to YC; the concerns of those outside that layer, even the valid ones, are simply not important to PG)

Not entirely sure what the author thinks they are achieving.

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